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posted by LaminatorX on Sunday December 21 2014, @05:06AM   Printer-friendly
from the genuine-advantage dept.

In his blog, Scott Adams describes his exasperating experience following a change of motherboards. Central to the story is the fact that he has two phone numbers for Windows re-activation, both of which claim they are an official Microsoft call center and that the other is a scam. Neither are any help anyway. Seems to be a topical issue right now.

 
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  • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 21 2014, @08:10AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 21 2014, @08:10AM (#127957)

    If your Windows came with an install disk then you are seriously out of date. Nowadays 20gb of the primary hdd is chewed up with os install and restore partitions. When the hdd dies outside warranty you are SOL.

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 21 2014, @08:46AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 21 2014, @08:46AM (#127966)

    Unless you had saved a disk backup image or created restore media.... *crickets*

    • (Score: 2) by LoRdTAW on Monday December 22 2014, @04:11PM

      by LoRdTAW (3755) on Monday December 22 2014, @04:11PM (#128366) Journal

      Good luck with that. I tried moving the Windows 7 install of a Lenovo Thinkpad to an SSD I upgraded it with. I used a combination of DD and ntfsclone to copy the partitions but no dice. There are three partitions: boot, restore and windows. Boot has a boot manager which I assume also contains diagnostic utilities and the restore loader. I made sure everything matched up: partition size, starting sectors, sector count etc. My goal was to start the restore partition to do a clean windows install to a new partition on the SSD. The damn thing refused to boot at all, even the diagnostics. I am sure I could have poked around the boot loader partition and fixed it but screw that noise. Who wants all that complexity?

      I installed Linux on the SSD, the proper way to fix Windows boot issues 😉. I wound up using that Windows license for a VM on the same system. A much better setup overall. The spinning disk was backed up and turned into a mobile USB disk.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday December 23 2014, @03:44AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday December 23 2014, @03:44AM (#128588)

        That's not how you move a Windows install. You should have created a factory restore disk. The leaflets that came with your computer and Windows initially recommends that you do this. Windows is not Linux. You don't move Windows around like you move Linux around and you don't move Linux around like you move Windows around. Don't blame the OS when you don't know how to use it.

        I made sure everything matched up: partition size, starting sectors, sector count etc.

        Then you also used DD incorrectly. You want to copy the entire drive, not each partition individually. You didn't need to look at any of those. You also switched disk architectures: HDD -> SSD. At the lower levels HDDs and SSDs are completely different. You shouldn't use a low level copy tool to transfer data between the two.

        I hope you don't consider yourself to be a computer expert (for Windows or Linux). You seem to know just enough to be dangerous, but not enough to actually know that.

        • (Score: 2) by LoRdTAW on Tuesday December 23 2014, @05:50PM

          by LoRdTAW (3755) on Tuesday December 23 2014, @05:50PM (#128713) Journal

          I hope you don't consider yourself to be a computer expert (for Windows or Linux). You seem to know just enough to be dangerous, but not enough to actually know that.

          You obviously have never done this yourself. And you don't have to be a dick about it.

          I have many, many times moved standard Windows installs from both large to smaller disks and smaller to larger disks using Linux tools such as ntfsclone, dd and gparted. I have even converted physical Windows installs to virtual machines (Both XP and vista). So yes, I do know what I am doing. The problem with Lenovo is they have a boot partition which loads Windows instead of Windows using its own boot loader. Their restore disk would put this same crap configuration back on disk. I do not want a diagnostic/boot partition nor do I want a restore partition.

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday December 23 2014, @08:46PM

            by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday December 23 2014, @08:46PM (#128764)

            You're right, I didn't need the personal attack. Sorry about that.

  • (Score: 3, Interesting) by frojack on Sunday December 21 2014, @09:06AM

    by frojack (1554) on Sunday December 21 2014, @09:06AM (#127970) Journal

    If your Windows came with an install disk then you are seriously out of date. Nowadays 20gb of the primary hdd is chewed up with os install and restore partitions. When the hdd dies outside warranty you are SOL.

    I didn't find that to be truel

    That was exactly my situation, the install/restore partition was toast, along with the rest of the drive.
    But like I said, one call to HP, (after the warranty period) and I had CD media FedEx, next day.
    Turns out the warranty on the OS is longer than the Warranty on the hardware.

    I subsequently found out I could have downloaded it and burned my own. That option isn't their first choice, because most people don't have two computers to burn a cd with.

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