Stories
Slash Boxes
Comments

SoylentNews is people

posted by janrinok on Sunday December 21 2014, @04:54PM   Printer-friendly
from the show-stopper-or-rare-event? dept.

Noted Linux expert Chris Siebenmann has described two catastrophic failures involving systemd.

One of the problems he encountered with systemd became apparent during a disastrous upgrade of a system from Fedora 20 to Fedora 21. It involved PID 1 segfaulting during the upgrade process. He isn't the only victim to suffer from this type of bad experience, either. The bug report for this problem is still showing a status of NEW, nearly a month after it was opened.

The second problem with systemd that he describes involves the journalctl utility. It displays log messages with long lines in a way that requires sideways scrolling, as well as displaying all messages since the beginning of time, in forward chronological order. Both of these behaviors contribute to making the tool much less usable, especially in critical situations where time and efficiency are of the essence.

Problems like these raise some serious questions about systemd, and its suitability for use by major Linux distros like Fedora and Debian. How can systemd be used if it can segfault in such a way, or if the tools that are provided to assist with the recovery exhibit such counter-intuitive, if not outright useless, behavior?

Editor's Comment: I am not a supporter of systemd, but if there are only 2 such reported occurrences of this fault, as noted in one of the links, then perhaps it is not a widespread fault but actually a very rare one. This would certainly explain - although not justify - why there has been so little apparent interest being shown by the maintainers. Nevertheless, the fault should still be fixed.

 
This discussion has been archived. No new comments can be posted.
Display Options Threshold/Breakthrough Mark All as Read Mark All as Unread
The Fine Print: The following comments are owned by whoever posted them. We are not responsible for them in any way.
  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 21 2014, @11:56PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 21 2014, @11:56PM (#128156)

    OK... But eunuchs are usually circumcised, not just at the foreskin, but the scrotum and testes, too. So it still doesn't make any sense.

  • (Score: 2) by khedoros on Monday December 22 2014, @12:42AM

    by khedoros (2921) on Monday December 22 2014, @12:42AM (#128178)
    Do you argue the correctness of every pun that you read? Most of them don't stand up to any kind of scrutiny.
    • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 22 2014, @01:00AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 22 2014, @01:00AM (#128187)

      Most puns that I've ever seen have not been as dumb and contradictory as that particular one.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 22 2014, @02:02AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 22 2014, @02:02AM (#128196)

    "UNIX?"
    "Eunuchs? No, they are not even circumsised. They are savages!"

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 22 2014, @03:04AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 22 2014, @03:04AM (#128214)

      Thank you! That one finally makes sense. He should replace his signature with what you just wrote.