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posted by LaminatorX on Monday December 22 2014, @02:13AM   Printer-friendly
from the Man-what? dept.

As long time SoylentNews community member Marand observed during some recent discussion of severe systemd boot problems, it turns out that systemd disables the magic SysRq key.

The magic SysReq key is described at Wikipedia as:

[...] a key combination understood by the Linux kernel, which allows the user to perform various low-level commands regardless of the system's state. It is often used to recover from freezes, or to reboot a computer without corrupting the filesystem.

A Fedora user who logged a bug report for this issue back in 2013 described the problem with systemd's unexpected and harmful default setting:

As systemd depends on many files on a rootfs, in case of any problems with rootfs, it is not able to do its basic function - control processes and (cleanly) shutdown/reboot when crtl-alt-del is pressed on local keyboard. As this is a feature, I'd like to ask to enable the sysrq by default on Fedora, otherwise it is not possible to reboot system even locally in case of emergency situation.

While that Fedora bug report is set to CLOSED NOTABUG, other Linux distros, like Mageia and Debian GNU/Linux, have restored the proper behavior.

Now that this problem has come to light, all Fedora users should evaluate whether or not they need to fix their systems to work around systemd's incorrect default setting. Users of other Linux distributions using systemd should also evaluate their systems, too, in case their distro has not yet fixed this unexpected bug.

 
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  • (Score: 2, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 22 2014, @04:53AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 22 2014, @04:53AM (#128228)

    I did a Debian testing installation recently. Perhaps I just missed it, but I do not remember seeing anywhere where I could choose my init system. I'm sure I would have remembered this had I been presented with this choice, because I surely would not have chosen systemd! If the option isn't presented by the installer, and instead requires some manual intervention during or after the installation, then as far as I'm concerned systemd is the only option.

    But even if I can choose alternative init systems now, how long will they be available for? Will they be deprecated in the near future (say within a year or two), causing me to have to switch to systemd then? What about when software I need to use ends up depending on systemd, forcing me to switch?

    Systemd is obviously broken software. I don't see how you or anyone else can suggest otherwise. It needs to be removed from Debian immediately. If it will not be removed from Debian, then I will remove Debian from my systems.

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday December 23 2014, @02:22AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday December 23 2014, @02:22AM (#128571)

    You probably just aren't technical enough to be making low-level decisions like which init to run, so you didn't know about how to make choices.