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https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2023/02/banning-tiktok.html
Congress is currently debating bills that would ban TikTok in the United States. We are here as technologists to tell you that this is a terrible idea and the side effects would be intolerable. Details matter. There are several ways Congress might ban TikTok, each with different efficacies and side effects. In the end, all the effective ones would destroy the free Internet as we know it:
There's no doubt that TikTok and ByteDance, the company that owns it, are shady. They, like most large corporations in China, operate at the pleasure of the Chinese government. They collect extreme levels of information about users. But they're not alone: Many apps you use do the same, including Facebook and Instagram, along with seemingly innocuous apps that have no need for the data. Your data is bought and sold by data brokers you've never heard of who have few scruples about where the data ends up. They have digital dossiers on most people in the United States.
If we want to address the real problem, we need to enact serious privacy laws, not security theater, to stop our data from being collected, analyzed, and sold—by anyone. Such laws would protect us in the long term, and not just from the app of the week. They would also prevent data breaches and ransomware attacks from spilling our data out into the digital underworld, including hacker message boards and chat servers, hostile state actors, and outside hacker groups. And, most importantly, they would be compatible with our bedrock values of free speech and commerce, which Congress's current strategies are not.
The essay goes on to list reasons why a TikTok ban by Congress would be ineffective, pointing out:
Right now, there's nothing to stop Americans' data from ending up overseas. We've seen plenty of instances—from Zoom to Clubhouse to others—where data about Americans collected by US companies ends up in China, not by accident but because of how those companies managed their data. And the Chinese government regularly steals data from US organizations for its own use: Equifax, Marriott Hotels, and the Office of Personnel Management are examples.
If we want to get serious about protecting national security, we have to get serious about data privacy. Today, data surveillance is the business model of the Internet. Our personal lives have turned into data; it's not possible to block it at our national borders. Our data has no nationality, no cost to copy, and, currently, little legal protection. Like water, it finds every crack and flows to every low place. TikTok won't be the last app or service from abroad that becomes popular, and it is distressingly ordinary in terms of how much it spies on us. Personal privacy is now a matter of national security. That needs to be part of any debate about banning TikTok.
Previously:
- Decades-old Law Forms Biggest Obstacle to Nationwide TikTok Ban, Lawmaker Says
- TikTok Would be Banned From US "for Good" Under Bipartisan Bill
- South Dakota Bans Government Employees From Using TikTok
(Score: 1) by jman on Friday March 03 2023, @01:03PM
"I'm just a simple computer head, but why don't ATT, Deutsche Telekom, Verizon, and all the other mobile providers add a firewall rule which simply limits data except for app update requests (a particularly formed packet anyone familiar with Wireshark could discern) from returning to the app's servers?"
Just keep everything local to the device, which would of course upset TikTok's business model; but, until US & the now-not-so-sleeping-dragon end their spat, I'd rather not share any demographic info with them.
(Actually, in my own case, that's not exactly true. I'd rather not share demographic info with anyone, which probably explains my lack of a Twithead account, or FootPlant, or all those other idiotic info-and-time-sucking platforms. If they want to monetize me, they should pay for my info. I don't need their stupid 'social' apps. I have a voice, and the ability to write letters - physical or 'e' - which can be used to communicate with others. And yes, I understand credit card companies, etc., also gather such info. But credit cards are useful, and while one would think the money they make off interest would be enough, they want to monetize even more, so there you have it. On the other hand, those allegedly "free" platforms, IMHO, are not.)
Should this ban occur on genpop, there's also a potential monetary issue at play. My honey's hair dresser does gardening TikTok videos on the side. She's got quite the following, and I believe she does make some amount of money off of them. Not that I appreciate spying in general, and certainly not any government spying on citizens of another country, but, in enforcing such a ban, our government would give itself a problem: How would such citizens be compensated for their certain loss of income as a result of the ban?