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  • (Score: 2) by janrinok on Sunday April 09 2023, @06:57AM (7 children)

    by janrinok (52) Subscriber Badge on Sunday April 09 2023, @06:57AM (#1300607) Journal

    So you will be leaving then....?

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  • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 12 2023, @07:50AM (6 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 12 2023, @07:50AM (#1301064)

    Watching janrinok implode as he tries to tame the internets is far too entertaining to miss. Spam mod some more ACs, jan! Ban some more new users! Explain again how you are preventing abuse by blocking commenting on the front page, and by making sure the front page is the most boring swill imaginable. Microsoft shilling? Check. Copyright supporting? Check. Retro Intel chip fan posts? Check. Only the Censorship battle is at all interesting, and it is not on the front page.

    • (Score: 2) by janrinok on Wednesday April 12 2023, @11:15AM (5 children)

      by janrinok (52) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday April 12 2023, @11:15AM (#1301071) Journal
      The site was created to discuss predominantly STEM topics but we also clearly stated that no subject would be off limits. The STEM topics are on the front page. However, it is not possible to provide editors to cover every conceivable topic so other subjects have to be elsewhere because we are legally responsible for the stories that we publish. That is not the case for the journals.

      by making sure the front page is the most boring swill imaginable

      That is because they are topics that do not interest you. In the past some people have simply trodden rough shod over the STEM discussions and decided to talk about whatever off-topic thing took their fancy. That does not now happen.

      The topics that interest you and many others are now being discussed in the journals. Every community member has a place where they can raise any topic they wish and have it discussed by those who are interested in participating in the discussion. Each community member is free to control their discussions as they wish. This is exactly why the site was created this way and it is now functioning exactly as it was always intended to do.

      You keep demanding access to the front page yet you have just stated that you have no interest in the topics that are being discussed there. What is your problem? You have your own discussion space and you are free to use it. Why aren't people publishing the submissions that used to be rejected from the front page. Oh, that's right - THEY ARE! It is precisely how it is meant to happen. Not a single AC is currently contributing to the running costs of this site. You are getting it all for free but still you are not happy.

      I do not resent the journals - I am very pleased to see that where they used to be used by a small number of people there are now more journals being created and more people joining in the discussions.

      Your criticism is actually the best praise you can give us - the system works!

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      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 12 2023, @08:39PM (4 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 12 2023, @08:39PM (#1301177)

        Can we please get rid of AC posting in the polls? One or more of these massive threads appears in every poll, with the same inane comments being posted ad nauseum. You're never going to agree to the demands from aristarchus, Azumi Hazuki 2.0, and anyone else who might be supporting them. They're never going to be satisfied with your answers because their concerns about privacy and transparency are disingenuous charades to excuse their trolling. There is no upside to doing this exercise every time a new poll is created. Why not disable AC posting in the polls and be done with this idiocy?

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 12 2023, @10:34PM (3 children)

          by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 12 2023, @10:34PM (#1301197)

          ^

          Turns out conservatives absolutely do not care about free speech beyond their own agenda to spew misinformation and hate.

          What a surprise /sarcasm

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 12 2023, @11:25PM (2 children)

            by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 12 2023, @11:25PM (#1301208)

            It's remarkable how you claim to be able to identify my political views from my desire to eliminate shitposting. The truth is that you're trolling, and this is an attempt to get me to discuss politics instead of your trolling.

            I don't believe for a moment that you actually care about removing toxic comments and users from this site. It's only a pretext for you to justify your disruptive behavior. If Runaway was banned, you would find some other excuse to shitpost.

            This isn't the first time that trolls used arguments about free speech and censorship to try to justify trolling. Slashdot trolls did that, with the "First Slashdot Troll Post Investigation" and subsequent posts about editor moderation. Aristarchus' choice to call his trolling a "jihad" is notable because Slashdot trolls actually had a website, anti-slash.org, where they claimed there was a "Sacred Jihad Against Slashdot" and organized their trolling efforts. They had a manifesto about alleged editor abuses and a way for trolls to recommend comments to be modded up or down. There were accounts on Slashdot [slashdot.org] to promote their "jihad" against Slashdot. All of it was really just an excuse to shitpost. You're just repeating the same trolls from 20 years ago.

            What's next? Will you be registering anti-soylent.org to organize your "jihad" against this site?

            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 13 2023, @01:03AM (1 child)

              by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 13 2023, @01:03AM (#1301225)

              Nope, pretty obvious where your political allegaince lies. Convervative, used to be a liberal, until liberals lost their minds, and George Soros. Did I miss anything? And now you, like DeSanta Clause, are calling for censorship, bookburning, and the prosecution of "thought crimes". Flat out Nazi shit. Nice to know janrinok has at least one supporter in his auto-de-fe of the SoylentNews!

              • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 13 2023, @05:04AM

                by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 13 2023, @05:04AM (#1301242)

                There are lots of people here who are not conservative. Last I checked, users like DeathMonkey and Azuma Hazuki haven't been banned. Azuma Hazuki is very, shall we say, passionate in how she shares her political views. There certainly are people here who don't like the tone of how she expresses her opinions, but she hasn't been banned. No, only aristarchus has actually been banned. It stands to reason it is for something other than sharing his political views. That reason, of course, is doxxing.

                You know, I was involved with doxxing twice. Once, I was arguing on a public forum with someone I knew from IRC. During one argument, I thought he publicly posted details about me that he shouldn't have, though it wasn't doxxing. I was not pleased, and I retaliated by posting his address and phone number. I'm sure he saw it, but he never said anything to me about that. No matter what he posted about me, it was wrong for me to retaliate by doxxing him.

                The other time was also an IRC dispute, where I got into a fight with someone who I considered a friend. I'm pretty sure I got banned from a channel and he said some things to me that made me pretty angry. I asked a second "friend" from another channel to help me out and coerce the guy into unbanning me and taking back what he said. I knew better, that this "friend" was involved with phone phreaking and thought that sort of thing made him cool. Although I didn't ask this "friend" to do any doxxing, I should have expected he would do something of the sort. Nothing got posted publicly, but he obtained the address and phone number of the guy who banned me and told it to him. The guy who banned me, who had been a friend of mine, was very upset about what happened. He had been going to that IRC network for many years, but he left that day and never went back. Although I apologized, there was nothing that I could say or do that would change what happened or the impact it had on this person. Suffice it to say, he no longer considered me a friend, and he wanted nothing to do with me going forward.

                I was a teenager, and these took place over 20 years ago. There's a good chance that I'm the only person who remembers these incidents. I'm not proud of this, and I haven't forgotten how upset the second person was. Even though I didn't obtain or share any of his private information, and I didn't instruct anyone to do that, I am still culpable for what happened. It was wrong. Both of these things were wrong, and I greatly regret what I did. I have never done anything like that since, nor will I ever do so again. I haven't forgotten the harm I caused, and I'll never do anything like that again. Those incidents took place over 20 years ago. I was very immature then, and they don't reflect who I am now.

                I don't expect any of this will matter to you, aristarchus. You'll probably ridicule me for your honesty and try to use what I said to rationalize your own behavior. You don't seem to have a functioning conscience, nor do you appear to care about the harm your actions cause to others. You had a chance to accept a three month ban and to improve your behavior. You could have apologized for your doxxing and promised not to ever do that again. You could have stopped spamming articles with off-topic complaints. If you had apologized, admitted your wrongdoing, and changed your behavior, you would have been welcome to continue participating. You could have admitted that your behavior was awful, but you had the opportunity to change and make sure that the incident didn't reflect who you were going forward. You've spent the last year refusing to do any of that, and you've escalated your harassment and spamming. Just within the past month, you posted Runaway's name in a comment. You haven't changed, and you're not even willing to try.

                You earned your ban. You were given many opportunities to repent, and you've rejected every one of them. Your ban is not because of politics. It's because of doxxing and your absolute refusal to reform yourself.