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posted by hubie on Thursday April 06 2023, @03:59AM   Printer-friendly
from the scoot! dept.

89% of citizens want them gone – at least among the 7.46% who showed up to vote:

Citizens of Paris voted on Sunday to ban e-scooters from the City of Love, and Mayor Anne Hidalgo responded by promising that the fleets of rechargeable rentables would be gone come September.

The outcome was overwhelming, with 89 percent of votes cast in favor of the ban, though only 103,084 of Paris's 1,382,322 registered voters participated – around 7.5 percent. In a summary of the vote, the Parisian government noted that the final decision on the ban fell to city officials, who didn't appear to plan on countermanding the non-binding outcome.

[...] Only three companies are currently authorized to operate electric scooter fleets in Paris – Lime, Dott and Tier – which were granted three-year contracts in 2020 after Parisians voiced their dissatisfaction with a 2018 rollout in the city. Per Paris's government, the public domain occupancy agreements the three operators have all end on August 31, and it seems Hidalgo doesn't plan to renew them.

Lime and Tier both told The Register they would be ceasing operations in Paris come September 1, though Tier did note its shared e-bike service would still be available in the city.

Both companies expressed disappointment at the outcome, but pointed to the fact that the low voter turnout meant the results weren't representative of the city's entire population. "With approximately 93 percent of citizens not going to the polls, a large majority of Parisians have shown that e-scooters are not an issue," a Tier spokesperson said.

"We acknowledge the result of this unprecedented referendum, which was heavily impacted by very restrictive voting methods. This led to an extremely low turnout, heavily skewed towards older age groups, which has widened the gap between pros and cons," said a spokesperson for Lime.

Lime's response came from a third-party PR firm who said the statement represented a position "shared by Dott, Lime and Tier and not Lime speaking for the industry."


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  • (Score: 2, Troll) by darkfeline on Thursday April 06 2023, @05:56AM (4 children)

    by darkfeline (1030) on Thursday April 06 2023, @05:56AM (#1300029) Homepage

    Everything is a "people problem". Blaming people is just denial that the idea was never viable in the first place. If your idea doesn't work because of people, then your idea doesn't work period.

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  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 06 2023, @06:23AM (2 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 06 2023, @06:23AM (#1300032)

    If your idea doesn't work because of people, then your idea doesn't work period.

    It might work with a different bunch of people though. So "doesn't work period" is a bit too simplistic.

    For example, in some places you don't have to lock your doors (and you might even be OK with your neighbor borrowing stuff). Whereas that would be a bad idea in a different place.
    In some places people queue in a fairly orderly and civilized manner and in other places people don't. Does that mean the idea of queuing "doesn't work period"?

    In some places you can expect people to NOT be litterbugs, in other places you might as well expect them to be litterbugs.

    • (Score: 1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 06 2023, @12:53PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 06 2023, @12:53PM (#1300082)

      Oh yes...I was fortunate enough to have experienced childhood in rural Alabama.

      We had a set of ethics which made locks kinda useless. If someone didn't the system, first it explained that one way or the other, either follow the rules or get out of town. One warning was sufficient. Troublemakers just disappeared.

      Nobody's stuff got messed with.

      Those cartoons...Snuffy Smith...back in the 50's, well it was a pretty good example of how we handled social problems. We could sleep at night, and we could walk alone damn near anywhere, even at midnight, no one would bother us. But everyone knew there were things one knew not to do. One did not practice assholery.

      Practicing assholery would make one disappear, and we all knew it. We rarely encountered assholes. Someone would fix the problem. And the rest of us knew that whatever caused all the woe to our neighbor wasn't around anymore to come after us.

    • (Score: 2, Insightful) by khallow on Thursday April 06 2023, @11:18PM

      by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Thursday April 06 2023, @11:18PM (#1300205) Journal

      For example, in some places you don't have to lock your doors (and you might even be OK with your neighbor borrowing stuff). Whereas that would be a bad idea in a different place. In some places people queue in a fairly orderly and civilized manner and in other places people don't. Does that mean the idea of queuing "doesn't work period"?

      You don't speak just of people here! Two things are missing: cultural infrastructure and environment. Consider your above situation. In a place where everyone knows you, stealing stuff from unlocked houses will blow back on you fast and there would be harsh cultural punishments for stealing. In a place where you can move a few miles and disappear, there's far less blowback from theft. And if you're hanging out with a group that steals a lot, then there's no cultural backlash to stealing outside the group.

  • (Score: 2, Insightful) by khallow on Thursday April 06 2023, @08:58AM

    by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Thursday April 06 2023, @08:58AM (#1300053) Journal
    Or it might suddenly work a lot better when you get fined for littering per misplaced scooter. Someone is renting them out. That someone probably would change their ways, if they're getting fined per violation.

    Remember I don't oppose all regulation, only stuff that causes harm. Banning scooters causes a lot more harm than fining violators.