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posted by janrinok on Tuesday December 30 2014, @05:32PM   Printer-friendly

The full site update and post is coming up this weekend (barring unforeseen complications) but this is deserving of its own news update being as we had so many weigh in on it alone. While most of you really dug or were neutral on the idea, there were a few criticisms and most of them had some degree of validity. Most specifically the one that said you can see cause and effect more clearly if you change less at once. We absolutely cannot argue with that, so there's been a change to the Experiment.

The Spam moderation and abuse checking mechanism thereof are still going in. The Disagree moderation is still going in and Overrated is still going away. Moderation and posting in the same discussion in any order is still going in. What's not going in is moving all the current downmods to +0 mods. We're going to hold off testing that until we see if this solves most of the problems or not.

Because of another criticism, we'll also be changing how mod points are given out for the duration of the experiment. You may or may not have noticed but we already tested that over Christmas day and the day after by giving everyone who'd been registered a month or more and had "willing to moderate" checked mod points. The dataset is pretty small to infer much from but for the most part the people who said "give us more points and we can self correct" were correct within that two-day span. Not all the bad downmods were corrected by any means but quite a lot of them were. If we can keep this level or better of self-correction-of-jackassery going, I don't see much need for more drastic changes to the moderation system or even for meta-moderation really.

On a personal side note, I dig the fact that basically every comment out of the 150 that the Experiment post got was positive, constructive, or some combination of the two. Calling us bloody idiots is all good from a free speech angle but pretty much every one of our naysayers stepped up and added useful criticism as well. This makes me proud as hell to work for a project with a community that much better than the other site. Hats off to you guys.

 
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  • (Score: 2) by Daiv on Tuesday December 30 2014, @09:07PM

    by Daiv (3940) on Tuesday December 30 2014, @09:07PM (#130323)

    I would really love to see AC postings limited to no more than 30% of the total comments. While I agree there seems to be some good AC posts, there also seems to be a bunch of garbage in equal proportion. I think the people who really want to add will sign up/in and the trolls will have to wait until there are much more comments and by then no eyeballs to see their lack of contribution.

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday December 30 2014, @10:20PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday December 30 2014, @10:20PM (#130353)

    I think you overestimate the value of forcing people to log in.
    What happens if an account gets a reputation for being snarky? Lets say he gets bad karma and starts posting at 0 or even -1 - and isn't smart enough to just create a new account - do you think that's going to make the people he snarked at any less likely to respond?

    Like I said, I read at +0 all the time and maybe I have a thicker skin, but I haven't noticed a significant problem with "bad" posts, and I especially haven't seen much in the way of up-modded responses to AC trolling.

    • (Score: 2) by Daiv on Tuesday December 30 2014, @10:46PM

      by Daiv (3940) on Tuesday December 30 2014, @10:46PM (#130364)

      Probably.
      If an account gets a reputation for being snarky, then they are snarky. If they do start posting at 0, no worries, everyone else like you will still read all their comments. Yes, just like lights and sounds at retail exits deter most people from stealing.
      When I've got time to kill, I read a 0/-1, but when discussions get going, it's hard to tell if you're responding to the same person when any random AC keeps responding. If someone is that involved, make the commitment and sign up/in.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday December 30 2014, @11:33PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday December 30 2014, @11:33PM (#130384)

        > If they do start posting at 0, no worries,

        And how is that different from a snarky AC?

        > it's hard to tell if you're responding to the same person when any random AC keeps responding.
        > If someone is that involved, make the commitment and sign up/in.

        That's a pretty authoritarian position - other people need to conform to what makes your life easier because that's the way it should be. I have a theory that the people who are most concerned with these things here on soylent tend towards the authoritarian side of the spectrum, buzzard may well be the most authoritarian poster on soylent, frojack definitely comes across that way, but I don't recall reading many of your posts.

        • (Score: 2) by Daiv on Wednesday December 31 2014, @03:08PM

          by Daiv (3940) on Wednesday December 31 2014, @03:08PM (#130532)

          That's a pretty authoritarian position - other people need to conform to what makes your life easier because that's the way it should be. I have a theory that the people who are most concerned with these things here on soylent tend towards the authoritarian side of the spectrum

          If you knew me in real life, you'd know I am probably the least authoritarian person you'll ever meet. I can see your easy connection between the two though.

          but I don't recall reading many of your posts

          I recall reading thousands of your posts, Anonymous Coward.

        • (Score: 2) by aristarchus on Wednesday December 31 2014, @07:17PM

          by aristarchus (2645) on Wednesday December 31 2014, @07:17PM (#130598) Journal

          OK! Who said that? Was it you, AC #1? Or you, AC#1 as well? Or was it you, as usual, AC#1? This will go on your permanent record!