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Journal by Azuma Hazuki
Tolerance Is Not A Moral Precept.
This is a thorough once-over giving the lie to the "conservatives'" self-serving bullshit squealing that "Butbutbutbutbut if you don't tolerate my intolerance you're a hypocrite!" The short version, as put forth in the article, is this: tolerance is a peace treaty, not a suicide pact.
Put another way, it's social technology, just like laws. It allows us, in an ever-more-connected global society, to exist and function. Like a treaty it covers those, and only those, who are party to it.
This means that if you're a genocidal fucking psychopath then no, Virginia, we do not have to "tolerate" your unhinged ramblings. You are cancer in the body politic. You have gleefully ripped your human card to shreds and dropped the pieces in an incinerator, cackling like a hyena on PCP at how you have "owned the libs." You have placed yourselves outside the treaty. We are not obligated to put up with your shit.
tl;dr: if you can't behave like a civilized human being, don't be surprised when you get treated like a rabid animal. Read and be better, or don't, it's your choice, but don't bitch when you get your find-outs.
This is a thorough once-over giving the lie to the "conservatives'" self-serving bullshit squealing that "Butbutbutbutbut if you don't tolerate my intolerance you're a hypocrite!" The short version, as put forth in the article, is this: tolerance is a peace treaty, not a suicide pact.
Put another way, it's social technology, just like laws. It allows us, in an ever-more-connected global society, to exist and function. Like a treaty it covers those, and only those, who are party to it.
This means that if you're a genocidal fucking psychopath then no, Virginia, we do not have to "tolerate" your unhinged ramblings. You are cancer in the body politic. You have gleefully ripped your human card to shreds and dropped the pieces in an incinerator, cackling like a hyena on PCP at how you have "owned the libs." You have placed yourselves outside the treaty. We are not obligated to put up with your shit.
tl;dr: if you can't behave like a civilized human being, don't be surprised when you get treated like a rabid animal. Read and be better, or don't, it's your choice, but don't bitch when you get your find-outs.
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(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 28, @10:45AM (15 children)
I don't get it, you start out with an interesting argument, and then end with "Seriously, just kidding" in this line:
> the death penalty is too good for people who defile coffee with milk.
wtf?
(Score: 1, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 28, @10:50AM
Are you seriously suggesting that people who "defile" coffee with milk should not be put to death? Don't think we can tolerate that. Some crimes are just too heinous.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 28, @02:03PM (5 children)
Look at what you misquoted. You left off the absolutely critical: "For example". Do you not understand the concept of analogy? Or illustrating a point by example?
I hope you're the same person who keeps doing that, and not one of too many.
(Score: 2, Insightful) by pTamok on Friday April 28, @04:02PM (4 children)
It might need spelling out.
1) Tolerance is good. We should be infinitely tolerant. We should be tolerant of people that espouse irrational beliefs that support the harming the well-being and health of others. If you disagree, just be tolerant.
2) "Well, people who put milk in coffee should be killed. It is completely unacceptable. In fact, death is too good for them, they should be tortured before death!"
3) That's plain mad, No way will I tolerate that. That's insane.
4) Maybe there is a line for tolerance after all? Maybe where it is drawn is up for discussion?
5) But that's a stupid example. Clearly no-one thinks that or tries to carry it out.
6) How do we tell the difference between stupid examples and not-stupid examples? Opinions might differ. Is there a 'litmus test' that shows a clear difference between stupid and not-stupid?
(Score: 1, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 28, @05:56PM (1 child)
Simple, be intolerant of intolerance. Your #1 is the problem, infinite tolerance is reserved for people trying to become Buddha ;^D
(Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Monday May 01, @05:20PM
Even the Buddha becomes INTOLERANT if you try to enlightenment-block him!
Mara (demon) [wikipedia.org]
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 08, @01:25AM (1 child)
That's a high level of lactose intolerance... 😉
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 08, @09:18PM
Ylvis did a music video [youtube.com] about this.
(Score: 1) by khallow on Saturday April 29, @02:56PM (5 children)
Sounds like this mean character (who does a lot more stuff than the quotes) is pretty intolerant, right? That it was also purely imaginary didn't slow down Hitler a bit.
Whether the imaginary intolerant foes take the form of vile coffee defilers or corrupt racial tuberculosis enablers, it's quite easy to completely derail the Popperian anti-intolerance train with utter nonsense. My take is this is happening here. The exercise of not tolerating intolerance is just a flimsy pretext for bigotry. Haters gotta hate, but they need to cast it as the other side's fault first.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 29, @06:13PM (4 children)
"The exercise of not tolerating intolerance is just a flimsy pretext for bigotry."
White supremacist says what? White lives matter!!
Lawl k d00d
(Score: 1) by khallow on Saturday April 29, @08:14PM (3 children)
JOOZ GONNA TUBE UR SOCIETZ. And Germany believed him enough.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday May 06, @07:18PM (2 children)
Now the tricky part, learn from history! All the biggest fears of modern conservatives are ignorant nonsense hiding the real problems from conservative institutions.
Trans groomers? Nope, repressed religious fanatics grooming and abusing your kids.
Grabbing yer guns? Nope, conservatives have passed most gun restrictions and promoted dangerous gun liberties, a weird paradox. Remember the 2x popular vote loser saying they should take guns first and worry about due process later? Lefties member them berries.
Taxes? Lololol loser boy cemented much higher taxes for da plebes to give the richie richers more tax breaks. More socialism for those with all the wealth, punishment for everyone else.
Please let us know when you care to deal with the real world, which will include not supporting fascist traitors if you don't want to be lumped in with them.
(Score: 1) by khallow on Saturday May 06, @07:39PM
I'm already dealing with the real world better than you are.
(Score: 1) by khallow on Sunday May 07, @06:23AM
And what is up with these two minute hates? You do realize that 1984 is not an instruction manual, right?
I can't say that I really care what foolishness you choose to engage in. Your wish to lump me in a category is just a manifestation of your intolerance not some failing on my part. How should I not tolerate it?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 30, @04:18PM (1 child)
Send them to GitMoo.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 02, @03:32AM