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Journal by Azuma Hazuki
Tolerance Is Not A Moral Precept.
This is a thorough once-over giving the lie to the "conservatives'" self-serving bullshit squealing that "Butbutbutbutbut if you don't tolerate my intolerance you're a hypocrite!" The short version, as put forth in the article, is this: tolerance is a peace treaty, not a suicide pact.
Put another way, it's social technology, just like laws. It allows us, in an ever-more-connected global society, to exist and function. Like a treaty it covers those, and only those, who are party to it.
This means that if you're a genocidal fucking psychopath then no, Virginia, we do not have to "tolerate" your unhinged ramblings. You are cancer in the body politic. You have gleefully ripped your human card to shreds and dropped the pieces in an incinerator, cackling like a hyena on PCP at how you have "owned the libs." You have placed yourselves outside the treaty. We are not obligated to put up with your shit.
tl;dr: if you can't behave like a civilized human being, don't be surprised when you get treated like a rabid animal. Read and be better, or don't, it's your choice, but don't bitch when you get your find-outs.
This is a thorough once-over giving the lie to the "conservatives'" self-serving bullshit squealing that "Butbutbutbutbut if you don't tolerate my intolerance you're a hypocrite!" The short version, as put forth in the article, is this: tolerance is a peace treaty, not a suicide pact.
Put another way, it's social technology, just like laws. It allows us, in an ever-more-connected global society, to exist and function. Like a treaty it covers those, and only those, who are party to it.
This means that if you're a genocidal fucking psychopath then no, Virginia, we do not have to "tolerate" your unhinged ramblings. You are cancer in the body politic. You have gleefully ripped your human card to shreds and dropped the pieces in an incinerator, cackling like a hyena on PCP at how you have "owned the libs." You have placed yourselves outside the treaty. We are not obligated to put up with your shit.
tl;dr: if you can't behave like a civilized human being, don't be surprised when you get treated like a rabid animal. Read and be better, or don't, it's your choice, but don't bitch when you get your find-outs.
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Agnes' Law:
Almost everything in life is easier to get into than out of.
(Score: 4, Insightful) by digitalaudiorock on Friday April 28, @01:46PM (12 children)
It's all really very similar to issues around constitutional rights. The notion of "tolerating intolerance" makes no more sense than allowing someone the "constitutional right" to infringe on other's constitutional rights...another tactic that's popular on the right these days. Again, not that complicated for anyone with a few brain cells to rub together.
(Score: 4, Insightful) by digitalaudiorock on Friday April 28, @02:37PM (3 children)
Whoever modded these as Troll can seriously just fuck off and fucking die...seriously. Everything I said is the simple truth.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by Azuma Hazuki on Friday April 28, @03:31PM (2 children)
I modded both of those back up +1 Insightful because...well, that's what they are. And it's sad that such a simple thing is a radical insight these days but there you go.
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 4, Insightful) by digitalaudiorock on Friday April 28, @04:21PM (1 child)
Thanks. Maybe you have the stomach to reply to Runaway's insane post below about how it's somehow like Hitler to "dehumanize" him by not tolerating his bigotry. I just don't have it in me to bother.
Funny thing really. He and I probably aren't in very different demographics generally...though I'm actually older. I'm an old, white, heterosexual, male from a very conservative family, so WASP that we trace back to the Mayflower. Yet somehow he manages to make me somewhat ashamed to be a human being.
(Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 01, @01:13AM
The whole point of such trolling is to exhaust patience, attention, your willingness to communicate and to demotivate you in general. That is a reason why the otherwise idiotic and inane things they do are their first option. They don't want to communicate; they want to win.
(Score: 1) by khallow on Saturday April 29, @06:08PM (5 children)
Is that latter even a real thing? After all, there's that conservative rhetoric to the contrary like "the right to swing your fist ends at my nose." My bet is that it's the usual problem - people disagreeing on whether rights were being violated in the first place.
(Score: 4, Interesting) by digitalaudiorock on Sunday April 30, @02:56PM (4 children)
The primary example that comes to mind is quite relevant to this journal actually. That's the idea that someone's freedom of religion allows them to discriminate against the LGBTQ community. The right loves that flawed argument for sure.
(Score: 1) by khallow on Sunday April 30, @04:29PM (3 children)
How were they discriminating? For example, the classic cases (here [cnn.com] and here [cnn.com]) are the wedding cake lawsuits where state regulators attempted to punish bakers for refusing to write messages on their cakes that were counter to their religious beliefs (violating two parts of the First Amendment - freedom of speech and freedom of religion). There, I agree with the results. It really is worse than discrimination to force people to say things that are counter to deeply held beliefs.
You don't have that same problem with the usual avenues of discrimination. There's no constitutional right violated in the workplace when you're hiring people or evaluating their job performance. Or when you serve people in a business. I'm sure somebody feels otherwise about it, but it's straight-forward just the same.
(Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 30, @05:36PM (2 children)
See "everything in Florida and Texas"
And u wondr y ppl yhink u argue in bad faith
(Score: 1) by khallow on Sunday April 30, @07:25PM (1 child)
I doubt you're one of those people.
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 02, @05:49PM
Nazi sez wut?
(Score: 1, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 30, @03:02AM (1 child)
It's called "State's Rights!" Like the right to force a woman to carry to term, force people to work for you for free (slavery) or without a right to organize (Right-to-work, for less). The South will lose Again!
Punching Nazis in the face is not violence, it is educational, and performed with the greatest love for the fellow human who has gone so astray. Poor Runaway!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday May 06, @12:34AM
But oddly it's not a "State's Rights!" to force people to wear masks during a pandemic. It's not even the right of a private employer to force his employees to be vaccinated. Something about bodily autonomy.