This is a thorough once-over giving the lie to the "conservatives'" self-serving bullshit squealing that "Butbutbutbutbut if you don't tolerate my intolerance you're a hypocrite!" The short version, as put forth in the article, is this: tolerance is a peace treaty, not a suicide pact.
Put another way, it's social technology, just like laws. It allows us, in an ever-more-connected global society, to exist and function. Like a treaty it covers those, and only those, who are party to it.
This means that if you're a genocidal fucking psychopath then no, Virginia, we do not have to "tolerate" your unhinged ramblings. You are cancer in the body politic. You have gleefully ripped your human card to shreds and dropped the pieces in an incinerator, cackling like a hyena on PCP at how you have "owned the libs." You have placed yourselves outside the treaty. We are not obligated to put up with your shit.
tl;dr: if you can't behave like a civilized human being, don't be surprised when you get treated like a rabid animal. Read and be better, or don't, it's your choice, but don't bitch when you get your find-outs.
I don't know how you define "equal opportunity". I know for damned sure that giving a position to a black person, when there are white, Latino, Asian, and Native Americans better qualified, is NOT "equal opportunity". It is only "equal opportunity" when the black guy gets the position, because he/she is the most qualified candidate. The converse situations are all true as well - it is only "equal opportunity" when the Native American gets the position, because he is the most qualified for that position.
It's a myth that there is substantial support for hiring someone who is less qualified on the basis of race. It's a common talking point, but it's false.
Let's talk about why there isn't equal opportunity. Let's talk about children who live in inner city neighborhoods and have to fear for their safety going to and from school. Let's talk about children who might have a parent in prison, where the other parent struggles to pay the bills. Let's talk about children who attend public schools in those inner city neighborhoods, where the quality of education is substantially inferior to wealthier areas, which diminishes the opportunity for those children to attend college and to be qualified for those jobs. By the numbers, the children living in conditions like that are disproportionately Black. They don't have equal opportunity, not even close. That is the lasting effect of segregation, decades after it was outlawed. There most certainly is not equal opportunity.
If there is another civil war in the US, there WILL BE many millions dead.
And, I certainly hope that most are progressives. The child groomers. The abortion rights people. The guys who feel they are justified competing in women's sports. The dumb sons of bitches who vote for Senile Joe.
BTW - progressive isn't a race. Fuckwits on the left/progressive side of things want to call everything racism these days. Are you another fuckwit? Progressive is a mental disease, not a race.
Those are not the words of a sane person, nor are they the words of a person who has a firm grasp on reality. Any person who is mentally healthy would say that we need to find some way to avoid turning to violence. They wouldn't cheer on killing people who disagree with them. I don't care if it's one person, 20 people, or 20 million people. This isn't about a number. It's about you wanting to kill people who disagree with you. You've completely dehumanized those people. I cannot fathom that a person who is mentally healthy would hold such views. Despite the vile things you've said, I won't respond in kind. Instead, I choose to forgive you for what you've said. Although I despise what you've said, I don't want to bring any harm upon you at all.
For your own good, please seek a psychiatric evaluation if you haven't already received one. You're not behaving normally nor rationally. Your words are not those of a healthy person. I sincerely hope you receive treatment and can improve your quality of life. I only wish I'd realized what's going on with you sooner. If so, I'd have chosen my words much more carefully in my previous comments.
You lie, and you know it. The US government and all it's contractors have had hiring quotas for decades. Major corporations with or without government contracts observe those quotas. Even small businesses work to meet the quotas. Minorities often get the position, when better qualified people are available.
Let's talk about children who live in inner city neighborhoods and have to fear for their safety going to and from school. Let's talk about children who might have a parent in prison, where the other parent struggles to pay the bills. Let's talk about children who attend public schools in those inner city neighborhoods, where the quality of education is substantially inferior to wealthier areas, which diminishes the opportunity for those children to attend college and to be qualified for those jobs. By the numbers, the children living in conditions like that are disproportionately Black. They don't have equal opportunity, not even close. That is the lasting effect of segregation, decades after it was outlawed. There most certainly is not equal opportunity.
Doctor Ben Carson would disagree with you. Amazing, the things a person can do, if he just refuses to join the gangs.
Those are not the words of a sane person, nor are they the words of a person who has a firm grasp on reality.
I have a very firm grasp on reality. We don't live in a fairy tale world. Progressive/socialist/collectivist/Marxist/leftist people like Stalin and Mao and Pol Pot have demonstrated time and again what kind of world your fairy tales lead to. All that kumbaya bullshit leads to mass murder. One of the reasons that the Second Amendment is so very important.
But you keep telling those lies. Keep calling me a Nazi, or fascist, or whatever.
-- Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
Let's revisit your solution to prevent mass murder.
If there is another civil war in the US, there WILL BE many millions dead.
And, I certainly hope that most are progressives. The child groomers. The abortion rights people. The guys who feel they are justified competing in women's sports. The dumb sons of bitches who vote for Senile Joe.
Yes, I'd rather see twenty million dead liberals lying in the streets, than to see their progressive heros taking over this country. And, I'll willingly sacrifice five million dead conservatives and independents to put a stop to the progressives.
Twenty million dead progressives? Make it fifty million - it's all the same to me. A future with slavery in it looks pretty damned bleak, no matter whether it's my descendants, or yours, or whoever's. We had a war, ~150 years ago, over a number of issues, including slavery. Today, "liberals" want to go back and explore slavery. Kill 'em all, and let God sort them out.
Apparently you seem to think the way to prevent mass murder is by committing mass murder.
You're not even remotely making sense at this point, and that makes me very concerned for your mental health. I implore you to please seek psychiatric help. It's for your own good. Please reach out and contact a mental health professional, get evaluated, and get treatment. It might be very difficult to admit that you have a problem. There's an unfair stigma about mental health issues, and that's really unfortunate and awful. But any decent person would respect you and support you for seeking treatment. And I assure you that no matter how difficult it might be at the beginning, you'll feel better once you get help. From what I've seen from your posts, I am genuinely concerned for your mental health. Please seek help, for your own good.
You're not even remotely making sense at this point
You seem to be obsessed with my posts - but you have totally failed to get the context I invited you to look at. A progressive said that maybe it's time for a civil war. I explained what a civil war would look like. I didn't threaten to start the civil war, I merely explained what civil war is. At this point, you're failing to make sense of rational statements, because you have chosen to ignore the context.
If the progressives start a civil war, and the conservatives put the progressives down, it's not murder. It is self defense.
Check you own mental well being. You're confused about a lot of things.
-- Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
When I say that I'm concerned about your mental health, I'm not doing that as an insult. I'm saying that because I am sincerely concerned about your mental health.
You claim that a progressive said they want a Civil War. I went back and checked. That's false. Here's the first post in that thread supporting a second civil war: https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?sid=27952&cid=745199 [soylentnews.org]. I went back and looked through jmorris' posting history, and I am quite confident they were not a progressive.
(Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 03, @10:42AM
(3 children)
by Anonymous Coward
on Wednesday May 03, @10:42AM (#1304466)
You seem to be obsessed with my posts - but you have totally failed to get the context
I am more interested in your dick, Runaway, and whether you have gotten it back from the Nigerian witches yet. Could you give us an update on the progress of the phallus recovery mission, so far?
Oh, and dalek is right, you are wrong about who drew first threat of blood. Definitely a deplorable conservative racist, like yourself.
(Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 05, @09:46AM
(2 children)
by Anonymous Coward
on Friday May 05, @09:46AM (#1304862)
Is this the reason Runaway never gets hired for any of those Firm Action jobs? He is disqualified through being dickless? I can see how for some jobs, that would be disqualifying, but the fact that Runaway cannot get jobs where this is not a prerequisite, suggests that he is being all reverse-discriminated because of his phallic deficiency. Look for birds nests, up in trees, Ruanway. According to the Malleum Malificarum, that is where the witches keep all the penises they have stolen. Yours might be amoung them.
(Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 05, @10:21AM
(1 child)
by Anonymous Coward
on Friday May 05, @10:21AM (#1304872)
Is it true that Runaway has no penis? Is this an irremediable condition? How long as it been like this? Is he the only one, or is that what happened to Tucker Carson, too? So many questions, so few answers.
(Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday May 06, @08:04AM
by Anonymous Coward
on Saturday May 06, @08:04AM (#1304980)
I just love it when dalek rips Runaway a new asshole! Not like it is that hard for any Soylentil to do the same. Except janrinok, who strangely seems to be protecting the racist asshole.
May a contractor set quotas as a way to meet its affirmative action obligations? No, OFCCP regulations do not permit quotas, preferences, or set asides. They are strictly forbidden.
(Score: -1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 01, @08:25PM
(1 child)
by Anonymous Coward
on Monday May 01, @08:25PM (#1304260)
But how else can you account for Runaway NOT being hired for all those jobs, when obviously, being white, he was the best qualified? I fear you do not understand white privilege, and white fragility, adequately. Next!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 01, @10:02PM
by Anonymous Coward
on Monday May 01, @10:02PM (#1304282)
But how else can you account for Runaway NOT being hired for all those jobs...
Maybe he wasn't hired for those jobs because he's a dumbfuck screw up with an overbearing sense of entitlement? Could that possibly be the reason?
...when obviously, being white, he was the best qualified?
<sneer>Yeah, I'm sure that is what the little runaway would like us to believe, but it just isn't true.</sneer>
I fear you do not understand white privilege, and white fragility, adequately.
Oh, rest assured, many of us here on SN are very well acquainted with the little runaway's over-weaned sense of privilege and hair-trigger "white fragility".
Double speak notwithstanding, if the goals aren't met, the contractor won't get, or keep contracts. Hire a lawyer if you want to produce more and better doublespeak nonsense.
-- Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
Doctor Ben Carson would disagree with you. Amazing, the things a person can do, if he just refuses to join the gangs. ... I have a very firm grasp on reality. We don't live in a fairy tale world.
You shoulda put a little more distance between those two thoughts.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by dalek on Sunday April 30, @01:56AM (14 children)
It's a myth that there is substantial support for hiring someone who is less qualified on the basis of race. It's a common talking point, but it's false.
Let's talk about why there isn't equal opportunity. Let's talk about children who live in inner city neighborhoods and have to fear for their safety going to and from school. Let's talk about children who might have a parent in prison, where the other parent struggles to pay the bills. Let's talk about children who attend public schools in those inner city neighborhoods, where the quality of education is substantially inferior to wealthier areas, which diminishes the opportunity for those children to attend college and to be qualified for those jobs. By the numbers, the children living in conditions like that are disproportionately Black. They don't have equal opportunity, not even close. That is the lasting effect of segregation, decades after it was outlawed. There most certainly is not equal opportunity.
Those are not the words of a sane person, nor are they the words of a person who has a firm grasp on reality. Any person who is mentally healthy would say that we need to find some way to avoid turning to violence. They wouldn't cheer on killing people who disagree with them. I don't care if it's one person, 20 people, or 20 million people. This isn't about a number. It's about you wanting to kill people who disagree with you. You've completely dehumanized those people. I cannot fathom that a person who is mentally healthy would hold such views. Despite the vile things you've said, I won't respond in kind. Instead, I choose to forgive you for what you've said. Although I despise what you've said, I don't want to bring any harm upon you at all.
For your own good, please seek a psychiatric evaluation if you haven't already received one. You're not behaving normally nor rationally. Your words are not those of a healthy person. I sincerely hope you receive treatment and can improve your quality of life. I only wish I'd realized what's going on with you sooner. If so, I'd have chosen my words much more carefully in my previous comments.
EXTERMINATE
(Score: 0, Troll) by Runaway1956 on Sunday April 30, @03:40AM (13 children)
You lie, and you know it. The US government and all it's contractors have had hiring quotas for decades. Major corporations with or without government contracts observe those quotas. Even small businesses work to meet the quotas. Minorities often get the position, when better qualified people are available.
Doctor Ben Carson would disagree with you. Amazing, the things a person can do, if he just refuses to join the gangs.
I have a very firm grasp on reality. We don't live in a fairy tale world. Progressive/socialist/collectivist/Marxist/leftist people like Stalin and Mao and Pol Pot have demonstrated time and again what kind of world your fairy tales lead to. All that kumbaya bullshit leads to mass murder. One of the reasons that the Second Amendment is so very important.
But you keep telling those lies. Keep calling me a Nazi, or fascist, or whatever.
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 2, Insightful) by dalek on Sunday April 30, @09:15AM (6 children)
Let's revisit your solution to prevent mass murder.
Apparently you seem to think the way to prevent mass murder is by committing mass murder.
You're not even remotely making sense at this point, and that makes me very concerned for your mental health. I implore you to please seek psychiatric help. It's for your own good. Please reach out and contact a mental health professional, get evaluated, and get treatment. It might be very difficult to admit that you have a problem. There's an unfair stigma about mental health issues, and that's really unfortunate and awful. But any decent person would respect you and support you for seeking treatment. And I assure you that no matter how difficult it might be at the beginning, you'll feel better once you get help. From what I've seen from your posts, I am genuinely concerned for your mental health. Please seek help, for your own good.
EXTERMINATE
(Score: 0, Troll) by Runaway1956 on Sunday April 30, @11:51AM (5 children)
You seem to be obsessed with my posts - but you have totally failed to get the context I invited you to look at. A progressive said that maybe it's time for a civil war. I explained what a civil war would look like. I didn't threaten to start the civil war, I merely explained what civil war is. At this point, you're failing to make sense of rational statements, because you have chosen to ignore the context.
If the progressives start a civil war, and the conservatives put the progressives down, it's not murder. It is self defense.
Check you own mental well being. You're confused about a lot of things.
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by dalek on Sunday April 30, @07:12PM
When I say that I'm concerned about your mental health, I'm not doing that as an insult. I'm saying that because I am sincerely concerned about your mental health.
You claim that a progressive said they want a Civil War. I went back and checked. That's false. Here's the first post in that thread supporting a second civil war: https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?sid=27952&cid=745199 [soylentnews.org]. I went back and looked through jmorris' posting history, and I am quite confident they were not a progressive.
EXTERMINATE
(Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 03, @10:42AM (3 children)
I am more interested in your dick, Runaway, and whether you have gotten it back from the Nigerian witches yet. Could you give us an update on the progress of the phallus recovery mission, so far?
Oh, and dalek is right, you are wrong about who drew first threat of blood. Definitely a deplorable conservative racist, like yourself.
(Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 05, @09:46AM (2 children)
Is this the reason Runaway never gets hired for any of those Firm Action jobs? He is disqualified through being dickless? I can see how for some jobs, that would be disqualifying, but the fact that Runaway cannot get jobs where this is not a prerequisite, suggests that he is being all reverse-discriminated because of his phallic deficiency. Look for birds nests, up in trees, Ruanway. According to the Malleum Malificarum, that is where the witches keep all the penises they have stolen. Yours might be amoung them.
(Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 05, @10:21AM (1 child)
Is it true that Runaway has no penis? Is this an irremediable condition? How long as it been like this? Is he the only one, or is that what happened to Tucker Carson, too? So many questions, so few answers.
(Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday May 06, @08:04AM
I just love it when dalek rips Runaway a new asshole! Not like it is that hard for any Soylentil to do the same. Except janrinok, who strangely seems to be protecting the racist asshole.
(Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Monday May 01, @05:39PM (4 children)
Hiring Quotas are illegal in the US [dol.gov]
(Score: -1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 01, @08:25PM (1 child)
But how else can you account for Runaway NOT being hired for all those jobs, when obviously, being white, he was the best qualified? I fear you do not understand white privilege, and white fragility, adequately. Next!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 01, @10:02PM
Maybe he wasn't hired for those jobs because he's a dumbfuck screw up with an overbearing sense of entitlement? Could that possibly be the reason?
<sneer>Yeah, I'm sure that is what the little runaway would like us to believe, but it just isn't true.</sneer>
Oh, rest assured, many of us here on SN are very well acquainted with the little runaway's over-weaned sense of privilege and hair-trigger "white fragility".
Indeed!
(Score: 0, Troll) by Runaway1956 on Monday May 01, @09:53PM (1 child)
Double speak notwithstanding, if the goals aren't met, the contractor won't get, or keep contracts. Hire a lawyer if you want to produce more and better doublespeak nonsense.
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 05, @10:23AM
Runaway Snowflake. Melting as his jerbs are taken away from him by blacks, and Hispanics, and women, and dogs, and robots, and incests.
(Score: 2) by Tork on Tuesday May 02, @04:57PM
You shoulda put a little more distance between those two thoughts.
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