This is a thorough once-over giving the lie to the "conservatives'" self-serving bullshit squealing that "Butbutbutbutbut if you don't tolerate my intolerance you're a hypocrite!" The short version, as put forth in the article, is this: tolerance is a peace treaty, not a suicide pact.
Put another way, it's social technology, just like laws. It allows us, in an ever-more-connected global society, to exist and function. Like a treaty it covers those, and only those, who are party to it.
This means that if you're a genocidal fucking psychopath then no, Virginia, we do not have to "tolerate" your unhinged ramblings. You are cancer in the body politic. You have gleefully ripped your human card to shreds and dropped the pieces in an incinerator, cackling like a hyena on PCP at how you have "owned the libs." You have placed yourselves outside the treaty. We are not obligated to put up with your shit.
tl;dr: if you can't behave like a civilized human being, don't be surprised when you get treated like a rabid animal. Read and be better, or don't, it's your choice, but don't bitch when you get your find-outs.
Reply to: Re:Racism is not a touchy subject
(Score: 1) by khallow on Sunday April 30, @04:10PM
Your response is b-b-b-b-b-but some crazy liberal said something stupid on the internet. I'm not interested in clicking random Youtube links you send me. But I know that with any group of a reasonably large size, there will be a few crazy people within that group. I'm not promoting their crazy ideas, and I condemn them when I see them.
It's all context. If it's one crazy liberal saying mean things on the internets, then sure, that response is inappropriate. But if it's 50 million crazy liberals trying to kill poor Runaway and a lot of other people like him, then it's not. And well, given that Runaway is seeing groomers in every classroom right now, I'm leaning towards not appropriate. But neither do I consider this a significant sin. Maybe if Runaway threatens to personally murder a trillion crazy liberals with his bare hands. That's a lot of crazy liberals and we'll have to start the sin counter at that point.
My view is that this whole thing is crazy. The line should be drawn at a rational standard of causing harm not beliefs. It's not that hard. Someone has racism cooties doesn't mean that the forces of good need to be mobilized to isolate the contagion. Similarly, a trans in the classroom isn't a sign of the endtimes.
Despite all the whining about the scary January 6 protest, that's an excellent model for how to handle protesters who break the law. A terrible model is how the violent aspects of the Floyd protests were handled in the northwest US, in Portland and Seattle. People were allowed to commit crimes for months on end in Portland, and just take over a neighborhood for several weeks in Seattle. It's done now, but that helped escalate the craziness we see now.
Also, pick better leaders in the US. Trump is particularly bad, being a significant contributor to the all the protests I have mentioned.But we haven't had a decent president since Clinton. Let's fix that.
(Score: 1) by khallow on Sunday April 30, @04:10PM
It's all context. If it's one crazy liberal saying mean things on the internets, then sure, that response is inappropriate. But if it's 50 million crazy liberals trying to kill poor Runaway and a lot of other people like him, then it's not. And well, given that Runaway is seeing groomers in every classroom right now, I'm leaning towards not appropriate. But neither do I consider this a significant sin. Maybe if Runaway threatens to personally murder a trillion crazy liberals with his bare hands. That's a lot of crazy liberals and we'll have to start the sin counter at that point.
My view is that this whole thing is crazy. The line should be drawn at a rational standard of causing harm not beliefs. It's not that hard. Someone has racism cooties doesn't mean that the forces of good need to be mobilized to isolate the contagion. Similarly, a trans in the classroom isn't a sign of the endtimes.
Despite all the whining about the scary January 6 protest, that's an excellent model for how to handle protesters who break the law. A terrible model is how the violent aspects of the Floyd protests were handled in the northwest US, in Portland and Seattle. People were allowed to commit crimes for months on end in Portland, and just take over a neighborhood for several weeks in Seattle. It's done now, but that helped escalate the craziness we see now.
Also, pick better leaders in the US. Trump is particularly bad, being a significant contributor to the all the protests I have mentioned.But we haven't had a decent president since Clinton. Let's fix that.