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  • (Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 26 2023, @07:29PM (19 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 26 2023, @07:29PM (#1308361)

    Ncommander's latest journal entry, where he takes it all back, is closed to ACs. Evidently he has gone to the jani-dark side. Well, I won't be commenting there. It's like millions of ACs cried out in terror, and then silence.

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 26 2023, @09:03PM (18 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 26 2023, @09:03PM (#1308376)

    NCommander expressed a desire to eliminate AC comments throughout the entire site a few months ago but backtracked due to pushback from the community. However, I suspect he blocked AC comments in his latest journal because you and Azuma Hazuki 2.0 filled the previous one with shitposts. If you don't like the consequences of your actions, you should have behaved differently to begin with.

    • (Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 26 2023, @11:19PM (3 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 26 2023, @11:19PM (#1308395)

      Please! Just let SoylentNews die with some dignity! Your repeated attempts to blame ACs is unseemly, and crass. Please stop.

      • (Score: 2) by nostyle on Saturday May 27 2023, @01:53AM

        by nostyle (11497) on Saturday May 27 2023, @01:53AM (#1308411) Journal

        let SoylentNews die with some dignity!

        <kidding>

        Dude! Your reverse psychology [wikipedia.org] strategy seems to be working. Maybe I can help.

        Whatever you guys decide to do, don't throw SN in the pipedot patch! It just ain't dignified.

        </kidding>

        Do, please, forgive my irreverence.
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        My winter's almost over, the summer, she's comin' on strong
        I can love you, love you, love you, love you all year long

        -Spirit, I Got a Line on You

      • (Score: 2) by janrinok on Saturday May 27 2023, @11:05AM (1 child)

        by janrinok (52) Subscriber Badge on Saturday May 27 2023, @11:05AM (#1308466) Journal

        No one has blamed ACs - have you read NCommander's journal entry?

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 29 2023, @09:06AM

          by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 29 2023, @09:06AM (#1308735)

          Read it. Can't post there. Seems not many are!

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday May 27 2023, @02:41AM (13 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday May 27 2023, @02:41AM (#1308417)

      Staff you'll want to closely examine whoever is posting this stuff about AH2.0. They are likely the creator of the AH 2.0 account, since I am the one that took over the account when they made the password public. Weeks after that comment I decided to test out if they were lying, but they were not. So I used the account to make AC comments, but sometimes forgot to click the checkbox sorry AH. The original owner or staff reset the password and claimed it in some comment, the email domain having mcc sharktesting. They are now claiming I made the account, either targeting my speech patterns or having privileged access to the database. If you actually don't care then that says everything, and I'll be happy to see the site shut down since bad actors can cause such chaos amidst lazy community moderators that prefer truthiness to truth.

      To be clear on the choice SN staff have made, terrorist content is allowed while site criticism is not. Anyone that brings up the doxxing by aristarchus can piss off since that was not me. If someone has a problem with me it is because they a) dislike conflict or b) are rightwing circle jerking fascists.

      Enough of my AC comments have been upmodded to know the entire community is not alt-right turds, but some assholes that run sock puppets and spam AC have managed to create total antagonism. Is it aristarchus being shitty and duplicitous? I don't think so. I think apk is playing most of the AC spam games and account creation because it fits their pattern. Maybe aristarchus/apk is a very unhealthy individual that is leftwing except for account creation spam where he becomes a rightwing shithead. I think it more likely apk is throwing a tantrum impersonating leftwing people because apk is a rightwing douche with zero ethics.

      Regardless, he'll follow you around and never stop. I'm just the occasional voice of reason trying to alert people to information I know to be true, such as the false accusations from janrinok that I am aristarchus; or the accusation from apk or whatever that I created the AH 2.0 account. I took it over to push back against their shitheaded behavior and have an account to moderate with. That is why the jerkoff asked if I had a previous account suspecting I was the one that took it over so they could lay blame for creating the troll account on me.

      Until SN can address these problems with the community in a mature of professional fashion you are doomed to suffer the attacks from the likes of apk/aristarchus/runaway1956, including all the suspects since I have no database access so even lefty aristarchus might be so unhinged to spam racist usernames. Most likely apk, but they have always been AC, who can say?

      Democracy, the worst political system except for all the rest. Maybe I'll stay maybe I'll go, I get some catharsis pointing out the truth of these rightwing shit heads and owning my own actions, my conscience is clear as the worst I've done is tell the truth and call people some mean names like Nazi or dumb fuck. Always amused me to get downmodded by the people that use snowflake as an insult.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday May 27 2023, @02:57AM (8 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Saturday May 27 2023, @02:57AM (#1308418)

        Haha, wow, same AC this is replying to, saw the AH2.0 accusation and wasn't paying enough attention to the thread I was in. The direct parent comment was the first time I entered the thread, but it still stands that the accuser for AH 2.0 may have privileged site access, or they are just an idiot wildly guessing to try and push their agenda of blaming their bad actions on to others.

        Do you think aristarchus really cares about AC posting? They used their account, even for the alleged doxxing according to janrinok, so why would aristarchus care about AC posts? Wouldn't the AC spammer apk care more?

        Anyway, good luck whoever tries to keep this beast alive. Janrinok seems to at least be sincere in trying to run the site well, even if he thinks terrorist content is within the community's free speech purview. Woops, I mean generalized terrorist content. If it targets anyone specific, like a community member, then that is too much! Lol, still janrinok seems sincere and tries hard to address complaints. I will criticize him for not updating the site's about page blaming non-perl skills, puhleeze just tell people how they are tracked and don't be misleading. Saw pipedot recently, at least there they say IPs are recorded and not sold. Since another comment was modded troll or spam, a reminder that logged in user's AC comments were revealed by staff to always be tied to the UUID, so staff can always find out a ligged in user's AC comments. Misleading eh?

        • (Score: 1) by dalek on Saturday May 27 2023, @04:00AM

          by dalek (15489) on Saturday May 27 2023, @04:00AM (#1308423)

          I have no privileged access at all. I volunteered today to help the site, but I've never been a member of the staff. I simply remembered Azuma Hazuki 2.0 rage quitting the site, recognized the behavior, and was able to infer that the same person was responsible for the AC comments. When you repeatedly disrupt the site with spam comments, both from an account and as an AC, it's easy to recognize patterns and link the AC comments to the account. I don't need privileged access to see what the AC has admitted: they were, indeed, behind the Azuma Hazuki 2.0 account.

          Incidentally, the doxxing is very real. Runaway1956 posted that he lives in Little River County, Arkansas. Because he has directly said as much, I am not revealing any secrets. I have seen a comment where aristarchus replied to Runaway1956, not as an AC but from the aristarchus account, and posted what he believes is Runaway1956's real name. It turns out that this name and Runaway1956's county of residence uniquely identifies a single individual. I don't know if this individual is Runaway1956 or not. However, if this is not Runaway1956, then aristarchus has targeted an innocent person for harassment, and that is horrible. If the individual is Runaway1956, then the comment effectively doxxed Runaway1956. There is no ambiguity, since this comment was posted by the aristarchus account. I despise Runaway's comments, and I've repeatedly condemned many things he said. I emailed the admins to complain when he posted a journal that used an ethnic slur for Native Americans in its title. But doxxing is wrong.

          By the way, I also emailed the admins at one point to express my concerns about how IPID hashes are retained. In fact, I had a conversation with one site admin about this particular issue because of privacy concerns.

          But if I am going to be intellectually honest, I can't give you a free pass just because I actually agree with quite a bit of what you say. If you're going to break the law, or if you try to disrupt this site, I'm going to be honest enough to criticize you as well. I email the admins when I have concerns because my goal is to get real action taken instead of just disrupting the site with AC spam. In effect, my issue with you is the same reason Azuma Hazuki has criticized aristarchus' methods. It's not about your political views. It's about your methods.

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        • (Score: 2) by janrinok on Saturday May 27 2023, @11:08AM (6 children)

          by janrinok (52) Subscriber Badge on Saturday May 27 2023, @11:08AM (#1308467) Journal

          You forgot to change your IP address - your comment and the parent comment you are talking about are from the same person.

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday May 27 2023, @11:50AM (5 children)

            by Anonymous Coward on Saturday May 27 2023, @11:50AM (#1308471)

            And janrinok is again abusing admin powers to dox ACs. Pathetic. Time to let SN die a noble death, falling on its own sword, or hoist by its own petard.

            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday May 27 2023, @12:49PM (4 children)

              by Anonymous Coward on Saturday May 27 2023, @12:49PM (#1308479)

              Funny how they abuse their power all the time then ask for proof. If I cared I would keep a log of comment links, but that is investing too much effort for their antics.

              The best part?

              "same AC this is replying to"

              Literally said I was the same AC, though I can see the wording isn't very clear. Dalek is busy becoming what they hate, and the irony of them all mocking "aristarchus version of free speech" while trying to block speech they don't like, why that irony is nutritiously delicious! Make Soylent News Science and Tech Again! Maybe their heart is in the right place.

              • (Score: 2) by janrinok on Saturday May 27 2023, @01:25PM (3 children)

                by janrinok (52) Subscriber Badge on Saturday May 27 2023, @01:25PM (#1308484) Journal

                https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=55398&page=1&cid=1308417#commentwrap AND https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=55398&page=1&cid=1308418#commentwrap [soylentnews.org] are from the same source.

                • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday May 27 2023, @01:34PM (2 children)

                  by Anonymous Coward on Saturday May 27 2023, @01:34PM (#1308488)

                  Sorry but I have to call you stupid again. Basic reading comprehension is all you need.

                  • (Score: 2) by janrinok on Saturday May 27 2023, @01:58PM (1 child)

                    by janrinok (52) Subscriber Badge on Saturday May 27 2023, @01:58PM (#1308490) Journal
                    Probably - I am tired, been up since very early.
                    • (Score: -1, Offtopic) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 30 2023, @12:08AM

                      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 30 2023, @12:08AM (#1308813)

                      Maybe stop abusing your privileged access then? Then it wouldn't matter how tired you are, just say no! Uh oh, I mentioned your abuse, guess this comment will be moderated spam, troll, or flamebait. Sad days when staff allow this rampant abuse then lie about it, while obsessing about AC identities. You are one weird frood, and noy the good way.

      • (Score: 1) by dalek on Saturday May 27 2023, @03:41AM (3 children)

        by dalek (15489) on Saturday May 27 2023, @03:41AM (#1308422)

        I'm the person who posted the comment at https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=55584&page=1&cid=1308382#commentwrap [soylentnews.org] that you're now whinging about. I'll put my user name on this comment so you who I am. I knew who you were all along, but I wanted to see if you were honest enough to say so. The fact that you posted https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=55584&page=1&cid=1308377#commentwrap [soylentnews.org] but couldn't give me a straight answer tells me you're not here to have a serious discussion. If you had been forthcoming about your past actions, I would have respected the honesty.

        I've also spam modded a lot of AC comments from aristarchus, though it's very possible I've misidentified a few of your comments as being from aristarchus. That's what happens when you repeatedly post the same drivel to disrupt the site. Even if you're not aristarchus, I maintain the spam mods are justified. You post the same garbage over and over where it's off-topic, repeatedly disrupting the discussion. When I have an objection to something on the site, I email the admins or janrinok, put my real name on the email, and tell them what I think. If you don't like me spam modding you, grow some stones, email the admins, and request that the spam mods be overturned. Instead of actually emailing the people who can actually overturn the spam mods, you just whinge about it with off-topic comments. Why is that?

        If you look at my posting history, you'll see that I've repeatedly complained about things Runaway1956 and khallow post. In fact, I wrote a journal condemning people who want to start a second civil war. I also repeatedly criticized APK for his disinformation about COVID-19 vaccines, which is the primary reason for him posting spam about me. I'm hardly the alt-right commenter you've claimed I am.

        I don't always agree with the staff. I've had many discussions with janrinok, and I know for sure that I pissed him off at least one time. Before I created this account, I had arguments with TMB. But I also know that staff like janrinok, TMB, mechanicjay, hubie, Fnord666, and many others work hard as volunteers to keep this site running. While I don't always agree with them, I damn well appreciate their hard work. And you bet I have a problem with it when someone decides to shit all over their hard work, spam this site, and try to tear down what they've invested a lot of time and effort in trying to build.

        I sent an email to janrinok today with my real name on it volunteering to help this site should it continue in something resembling its current form. They work their asses off, and I'd like to help them by editing a few stories and helping to keep this place running. Have you done anything to help this site? Or are you only here to cower behind a troll account and AC comments while you trash other people's hard work?

        I don't like bullies. I'd posted as an AC for a couple of years, but I created this account to call out APK because I saw him directing violent threats toward DeathMonkey and wanted to stand up against APK. I have friends and family members who chose not to get vaccinated for COVID-19 because of disinformation like what APK posted, so I stood up to him and called out his nonsense. He didn't like that very much, as you're well aware. I call out Runaway1956 when he posts reprehensible comments wishing for the death of 50 million progressives. And I have a problem when you and aristarchus post AC comments to satisfy personal grudges, disrupt this site, and tear down other people's hard work. You're a bully, and I'm standing up to you. If you don't like it, feel free to email admin@soylentnews.org [mailto], tell them that you don't like standing up to your bullying, and request that I be investigated.

        We're done here. Either email the admins to complain about me, or move on.

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        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday May 27 2023, @01:12PM (2 children)

          by Anonymous Coward on Saturday May 27 2023, @01:12PM (#1308481)

          So you want criticism silenced? You want bad behavior by admins covered up with lies, and you are trying to use the civility defense with a "think of the volunteers" line of reasoning? I think you are emotionally mixing up at least three separate people and making judgments against them all. I also think you are a liar based on how you accuse me of creating a harrassing troll account when I was very clear about not being the creator, but you insist that I am and somehow not giving you straight answers.

          To me this just shows you are a stodgy jerk, or actually one of the trolls playing more sock puppet games. Most of my complaints would stop if the site updated the privacy information and explained clearly what staff are able to access. Do you think every user is aware that using the checkbox for "post as AC" still ties their comment to their username in perpetuity? And other misleading bits. Why do they refuse?

          Heh, just realized as a lowly AC I am just posting words but you are the one taking all the bullying actions because you don't like my content. The correct moderations are offtopic or troll, that is what staff always said about other offtopic repetitive garbage.

          I hope you are just a jerk and not apk using another sock puppet to push a narrative game. With a username like dalek chances of you being evil seem high!

          PS: you should stop whinging about SN, makes your brain shrink. Me? Just giving constructive feedback and responding to whingey questions.

          • (Score: 1) by dalek on Sunday May 28 2023, @05:16AM (1 child)

            by dalek (15489) on Sunday May 28 2023, @05:16AM (#1308608)

            I have no sock puppets. I acknowledged creating an account prior to the dalek account, using the sarcastic name realDonaldTroll. I haven't logged into it since months before I created this account, though I don't remember how long it's been. I don't remember the password, nor do I even remember what email address I used to sign up. I will not use that account in the future.

            You've probably seen my comment about helping to edit stories. This evening, I unchecked the "willing to moderate" box, because if I'm going to be a staff member, it avoids the appearance that I have any moderator power to misuse. When I unchecked that box this evening, my 10 mod points disappeared.

            Of course, I have no way to prove any of this to you other than giving you my word.

            As I said, my issue is not with the content of your messages but with your methods. I disagree with posting off-topic comments repeatedly, which interferes with attempts to have on-topic discussion. That's what happens in polls and quite a few journals.

            A lot of the privacy decisions are influenced by the design of Rehash. The IP hashes were a design decision made ~20 years ago by Rob Malda. A lot of the things you disagree with actually predate Rehash by over a decade. When there were Perl programmers on the staff, there were many other priorities that had to be addressed just to keep Rehash running. From reading over the comments, it looks like Rehash is going to be replaced. If you don't like the privacy decisions in Rehash, join in the discussions about the future of the site and encourage different privacy practices in the future. You might need to create an account, but your thoughts would be on-topic instead of disrupting other discussions. That would be a positive action that could affect real change.

            Why not join in the discussions where this would be on-topic and express your views on improving privacy?

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            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 29 2023, @09:08AM

              by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 29 2023, @09:08AM (#1308736)

              Dalek is starting to be really annoying. Is there some way, I dunno, we could, exterminate?