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  • (Score: 2) by janrinok on Tuesday May 30 2023, @04:57AM (2 children)

    by janrinok (52) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday May 30 2023, @04:57AM (#1308838) Journal

    After enough rejections, a soylentil may get the idea that their contributions are not welcome here

    You would also think that after so many rejections a soylentil might realise that stories that do not comply with the submission guidelines will not be accepted.

    We had a soylentil who would contribute submissions from the WSWS [wsws.org], which were regularly rejected just because of the title of the source.

    It wasn't the source - it was because they did not discuss any of the topics that we are interested in. I repeat for the third time, political submissions that do not discuss one of our topics of interest belong in the journals.

    And it is well known that for quite some time the vast majority of submissions are made by one person, and reflect this one person's political biases.

    Everybody has a political bias whether they recognise it or not. But that doesn't mean that their submissions are automatically accepted or rejected. You know what is required of a submission. I have repeated the requirements several times in this thread alone. If they do not meet the requirements they will be rejected.

    Afraid to mention his name? Aristarchus was famous for having many thousands of submissions, and a rejection rate of close to 90%, not because of the quality of the submissions

    Ah, now we are talking about a specific person - he was not the only person who has failed to comply with the requirements. You are correct that he had many stories rejected - they are all still there in the database. He did not report the factual part of a news item alone, he also included a lot of his own political opinions. That is information that should be in the comments, not in the submission. Normally we can accept a small amount of additional opinion if we feed it is justified. In his case it wasn't - it was simply to get his own views on the front page under the guise of being genuine submission content. One of the requirements of a submission is that it should be factual, not his personal opinon. He was advised many times not to continue to do this, and to put the rejected submission in his journal. He continued, so we read every one of them and, if he had again ignored the submission requirements and advice, they would be rejected for precisely the same reason.

    Lets take one example: https://soylentnews.org/submit.pl?op=viewsub&subid=46750 [soylentnews.org]

    In the submission, aristarchus writes, amongst other things:

    If you have been wondering where all the darn aristarchus submissions about the "Alt-right" have gone, this is why. From the mainstream Republican Never-Trumpers at The Bulwark [thebulwark.com], "The Alt-right Is Now the Entire Right."

    Seems like the alt-right has gone beyond the lulz and into treason and buggery.

    Now look at the the title he gave to the material he was trying to discuss - which Topic would you suggest it meets? "The Alt-Right Is Now the Entire Right (Moar Revised, even more fixed! Hope this meets with your t" . That is exactly as we received it. It is not an error. Those 2 comments were not in the original linked material, but were aristarchus' own insertions. Completely unnecessary.

    In another: https://soylentnews.org/submit.pl?op=viewsub&subid=45284 [soylentnews.org] - entitled "DC Police Said Proud Boys Were Stabbed on Election Night. Then They Changed Their Story.". Again which of our front page Topics was he aiming to be in? Nevertheless, he writes:

    At least it was not Runaway testifying that it was antifa, in the 'hood, with the sharp pointy bits.

    This is not material that belongs in a submission. An editor might simply delete it a few times, but as you say he made 1787 submissions. We are not here to have our time wasted by an idiot who cannot comply with the submission requirements.

    There is a saying about 'Repeatedly doing exactly the same thing yet expecting different results'.

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  • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 30 2023, @08:06PM (1 child)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 30 2023, @08:06PM (#1308936)

    Just a little push-back on the revisionist history of SN: aristarchus made over 7,000 submissions. TMB used to object to them, on political grounds

    • (Score: 2) by janrinok on Wednesday May 31 2023, @05:42AM

      by janrinok (52) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday May 31 2023, @05:42AM (#1308997) Journal

      Rubbish - you are lying again.

      aristarchus made over 7,000 submissions

      They are still in the database - there are 1787 of them. The database actually displays the count on ari's submission page. Would you care to provide something to support your claim?

      TMB used to object to them, on political grounds

      TMB was never an editor (https://soylentnews.org/authors.pl [soylentnews.org]), and took no part in preparing stories for the front page unless 1. it was a story he was writing, 2. it was an emergency and the queue was empty. That will account for no more that 10 stories over a 7 year period.

      Lots of people used to object to them, community members and staff alike. Mainly because they did not comply with the submission requirements, and they were full of personal opinion and attacks against people completely unconnected with the 'news' item he was purporting to be writing about.