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posted by hubie on Thursday May 18, @05:03PM   Printer-friendly
from the won't-somebody-think-of-the-children? dept.

EU Commission Asks EU Council Lawyers If Compelled Client-Side Scanning Is Legal, Gets Told It Isn't:

Lots of ideas have been floated by legislators and others in hopes of limiting the distribution of child sexual abuse material (CSAM). Very few of these ideas have been good. Most have assumed that the problem is so horrendous any efforts are justified. The problem here is that governments need to actually justify mandated mass privacy invasions, which is something that they almost always can't do.

It's even a fraught issue in the private sector. Apple briefly proposed engaging in client-side scanning of users' devices to detect CSAM and prevent its distribution. This effort was put on hold when pretty much everyone objected to Apple's proposal, stating the obvious problems it would create — a list that included undermining the security and privacy protections Apple has long used as evidence of its superiority over competing products and their manufacturers.

Not that legislators appear to care. The EU Commission continues to move forward with "for the children" client-side scanning mandate, despite the multitude of problems this mandate would create. Last year, the proposal was ripped to shreds by the EU Data Protection Board and its supervisor in a report that explained the mandate would result in plenty of privacy invasion and data privacy law violations that simply could not be excused by the Commission's desire to limit the spread of CSAM.

[...] So, the proposal continues to move forward, ignoring pretty much every rational person's objections and the German government's flat-out refusal to enforce this mandate should it actually become law.

The Commission has ignored pretty much everyone while pushing this massive privacy/security threat past the legislative goal line. But it may not be able to ignore the latest objections to its proposal, given that they're being raised by the EU government's own lawyers.

[...] The legal opinion [PDF] makes it clear there's very little that's actually legal about compelled client-side scanning. The entire thing is damning, but here's just one of several issues the legal Council says the EU Commission is wrong about:

[...] A shotgun approach to CSAM detection is civil rights disaster waiting to happen, especially in cases where the government decides all users of a service are guilty just because some users are using the service to distribute illegal content.

The proposed legislation requires the general screening of the data processed by a specific service provider without any further distinction in terms of persons using that specific service. The fact that the detection orders would be directed at specific services where there is evidence of a significant risk of the service being used for the purpose of online child sexual abuse would be based on a connection between that service and the crimes of child sexual abuse, and not, even indirectly, on the connection between serious criminal acts and the persons whose data are scanned. The data of all the persons using that specific service would be scanned without those persons being, even indirectly, in a situation liable to give rise to criminal prosecutions, the use of that specific service being the only relevant factor in this respect.

And this would set off a chain of events that could easily result in permanent surveillance of millions of people's communications across multiple internet-based services. Not so much mission creep as mission sprint.

Furthermore, since issuing a detection order with regard to a specific provider of interpersonal communication services would entail the risk of encouraging the use of other services for child sexual abuse purposes, there is a clear risk that, in order to be effective, detection orders would have to be extended to other providers and lead de facto to a permanent surveillance of all interpersonal communications.

[...] The Council sums up its report by saying that if this proposal hopes to survive even the most cursory of legal challenges, it needs to vastly decrease its scope and greatly increase the specificity of its targeting. Otherwise, it's just a bunch of illegal surveillance masquerading as a child protection program. The Commission may be able to ignore security professionals and the occasional member state, but it seems unlikely it can just blow off its own lawyers.


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  • (Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 18, @05:41PM (1 child)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 18, @05:41PM (#1306868)

    A good lawyer doesn't tell you whether something is or isn't legal. A good lawyer tells you how you can do what you want to do in a legal fashion.
    The fact that the EU Commission's own lawyers couldn't find that way, is rather telling.

    While not entirely applicable, every time this type of thing comes up, I am reminder of this quote:

    When rulers need such extreme security measures, one has to wonder: why is their conscience so heavy? What have they done wrong to dread their own peoples so much?

    One can easily imagine "client-side scanning" turning into "client-side mandatory applications" to "with this residence, we can dump our stuff on yours and then round you up for having illegal content". While this certainly sounds like a Slippery Slope Argument, I'll just remind you that ever single fucking time that a slippery slope argument has been raised when it comes to this particular type of behavior, instead of heading the warning, the reaction was more akin to "Look! Super-happy-fun slide... let's go down it... wheeeeeeeeeee". I think we should take the "Slippery Slope Argument" out of the 'fallacies' list and dump it in the "pay fuckin' attention".

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  • (Score: 4, Insightful) by sjames on Thursday May 18, @06:36PM

    by sjames (2882) on Thursday May 18, @06:36PM (#1306882) Journal

    The problem is that slippery slope IN A VACUUM is a fallacy, but coupled with external supporting arguments like legislators and law enforcement that are proven suckers for temptation, especially if the slippery slope reduces auditability, it's a darned strong argument.

    In most debates, slippery slope is not so much a fallacy but a shorthand for entire books worth of arguments against a thing based on authorities repeatedly demonstrating that they cannot be trusted.

    For the most part, the rules of formal debate assume that both sides are debating in good faith. That assumption hasn't held in politics for a long time now.