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Journal by kolie

Reply to https://soylentnews.org/~janrinok/journal/14821

"This is what I'm responding to"

### This is my response

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"You may think that the Board is there to look after your interests, but nowhere in the founding documents or bye-laws does it say any such thing. One of its primary duties is to look after the interests of the shareholders."

### Public benefit corporations are a little different. The have a stated purpose which doesn't have to be directly to the share holders. There is a "public benefit" that the corp is too support

"Kolie approached, or was approached by, the Board to be contracted to provide new hardware to host a containerised site. He is for the moment a contractor. He has been generous in providing the hardware that has been gathered so far for free. Nobody other than the Board or kolie himself knows what exactly is in that contract. They are not obliged to reveal it to us, and this is perfectly normal and legal. I am not suggesting that anything otherwise."

### Without getting into the specifics - I basically do technical things to meet requirements for NC's comfort - and SN continues to exist and I get to sit at the table. We are always discssuing further steps even now.

" but it is being moved later on this month. I do not know where to. "

### Staging is setup in akamai now. I intend to setup staging in cogent facility in southern california and I'd like to move production there as well. I would foot all hosting costs on this equipment into perpetuity contract or not personally. I mentioned my background with ennwise not because it was involved but to provide context on what I've done.

"As a contractor kolie is perfectly entitled to keep the details of his contract private. He does no have to share it with anyone. But to be a valid contract I believe that there must be a payment of some kind - either monetary or in kind. Otherwise it is not a contract but an obligation or promise. If it is monetary then it might have been paid for by your subscriptions. Although that places no obligation on the Board I would have hoped that, being the community that we are, somebody would have at least mentioned it. They do not have to seek your approval for a payment but it would seem to be a reasonable action to be made aware of it. This is purely a personal view. If it is not monetary, then what is it? What reward will kolie receive for the expensive hardware that is being procured to run the site? I have acknowledged that so far it appears to be costing us nothing but that does not guarantee it will always be that way in the future. I will return to this point later."

### I Don't want money - I don't expect money - and I fully expect that my involvement with SN will cost out of pocket. I get the continued existence of this site. I see it as philanthropic donation of my time and resources - I do it for the existence of SN but it is selfish in that I want SN to be around and persisted. I also again get to participate in the PBC. My actions are directly tied to making sure SN is sticking around.

"kolie has told us that there are 'milestones' built within the contract that trigger the next stage of activity, and presumably a partial payment"

### No money will be coming to me from anything I'm doing. I don't want it. I want the site to not shutdown and my work and my dealins with NC are basically - I stick around and help and the site doesn't shut down and I get continued involvement.

" 'I am closing the site down' to 'the site will continue and I am planning for the next 5 to 10 years'. And with each change we do not have to be consulted, your views do not matter, and it is causing a lot of damage to our community."

### I get the view - I think his point is - this is what I see happening for this place to be successful in 5-10 years. I know for a fact he DOES want community consultation and participation . His views for the 5-10 years werent meant to be dogma - it was a starting point for a conversation of what he sees as necessary items to be addressed and a possible direction. Let's talk about that vision and hash it out as a community - or drop it and replace it with our own

### Community governance is the way forward. I'm on board with this and I will do what I can to implement this at every level. NC is also on board with this direction.

"1. At the end of the month the new hardware is stood up and the site switches over to it. We don't know where that hardware will be, how secure an environment it will be in, what is the expected up-time, and how much it will cost to run it."

### I've said several times what and where the new environment would likely be. The cost to SN is 0 - I'm donating it if it's used for SN.

"3. One person, now a Board member, has total control over the hardware. But unlike in the past where the access has been shared between the sysops team, which resulted in checks and balances, there is no indication that such access will be granted. We have been told by NCommander that there will be NO shell access to the new hardware. If the cost of access to the hardware for the community increases - perhaps a form of compulsory subscription fee - then there is little more you can do except to pay up or leave."

### The way forward is community governance. There will be sysop roles for staff. The infrastructure will be managed and that will be delegated - how it will be managed is changing. I think the quickest way to address this is for the PBC/Board to assign a CTO position and create a Tech subcommitee with the CTO and certain staff chairing the subcomitee.

"Your data, which we have protected for over 9 years, has also moved completely under the same person's control. We cannot copy it, you cannot change it, you have simply lost the right to control your data. In the EU this is already illegal, and it doesn't matter where the data is held. If it contains the data of EU people there are already existing laws in place. Once that data is gone, this site can never be recreated."

### Pretty sure we can/do comply with any data laws. No one has made any requests under these laws that I am aware of. There is no provision that prohibits data moving from datacenter to datacenter under the same legal entity owning it.

"I repeat, I haven't got a crystal ball and cannot say what will happen. But I can say that once it has happened you have already lost everything. How that data is used will be for the Board to decide, not you. If they want to monetize it they can do so providing that they do not break US law in doing so. If they want the site to be covered in advertising they may do so. If they want to invite other 'investors' to join the Board they can do so. Unless community members are on the board then it is all over."

### I will not be monetizing user data - ever. Flat no. If I have a seat in the board I will do everything I can to make that happen as well. Anything involving funds and raising money would go directly to the community to decide.

"I have no reason to doubt koli's sincerity today, but I also never imagined that NCommander would just shut the site down as he intended to do. If koli's interests are rather more monetary than community spirited, then he may view things differently in the years ahead. Today he is working hard to create a site, and giving generously of his time and money, but it might not be the site you imagined it would be."

### If I wanted to make money - I wouldn't be asking to run an existing news / community driven site. I have the tech and the means to grow a new community over night and properly monetize it without fighting the uphill battle I have infront of me. The quickest route to $$$ is green field development of a new brand. If it was about money there was much quicker easier ways directly to that. Literally the cost to me to run a news site would be ~ 100$/mo + another 100$ in advertising. I could run ads, subs, etc, and easily make that monthly invest back to feed into more advertising. That's not the play here.

"How can I install my management software (e.g. sock puppet detection and blocking etc) if I cannot have access to the machines I am trying to protect? It is what I had started to do in November when all of a sudden things changed. My software does some things automatically, but others have to be managed each day. How does anyone manage it if they cannot access it, or access the data that it is protecting?"

### Work with me and I can provide that data in a new format. I can give you api access directly to the things you need. There's many many ways this can work. If you do not want to put in the time to adapt them or streamline them than the offer stands that you can send me the high level workflow / scripts that show the process - NOT THE literaly fully working system with all your private libs and whatever else you have tied into it - cut all that out. That would greatly help me and be appreciated in making this happen quicker.

### I don't need your "working" script. I wanted to look at the high level workflow of your script to see how it functioned to replicate it. I don't need your custom libraries or whatever it depends on. I never asked for it to be designed to be moved. I just wanted to see the high level workflow to duplicate it. You have some workflow/algroithm that works. I know what I would do but I'm not sure if its effective and you've already proven to have a working algorithm.

### I detailed the exact steps I would take to detect the things we were discussing. I don't know if its what you are doing. I know my estimate to code that basic workflow is probably appropriate at 30 minutes. I would again like to see the workflow / process you've implemented if it works so well so I'm not needlessly doing things that A) Aren't proven and B) are duplicate effort.

"It isn't designed to be moved to another system without significant work involved - measured in at least days not minutes. Kolie has been given plenty of time to write a replacement but he has again made one excuse after another for not doing so. Apparently, it is my fault and I am not a team player..."

### See above - you can easily cut out your sensitive bits and show me the basic process / workflow of what the scripts do.

"How can we investigate bugs and faults without direct and full access to the database? How do we run SQL queries to provide the statistics and other data that we publish from time to time if we cannot have shell access?"

### With an interface to run sql queries. With API access to systems. With access to log aggregation systems. By running small containers that connect to the db and spit out the answer you want. There are many many ways to do the same.

"But it seems that I am wasting my time. The redirected comment that I am replying to does not provide a single answer to one of the many questions that I posed over a week ago. It is all designed, in my opinion, to waste time until it becomes a fait accompli. At which point it is too late."

### "Fait accompli" man this is rich. I'm doing something about it. All the shit you are railing against - I'm literally here to make sure that A) SN remains the same B) it's arround tommorow and past C) the kind of shit you don't want - is not likely to happen. I'm also eager to grow and expand the community as it has dwindled making SN far less "valuable" in terms of what I get out of it as a participant of it and its articles. More people, more comments, more depth, more "value".

"In line with Kolie's salesman patter ("I'm in vc, tech, construction verticals") I am now a vEditor and I'm in story verticals. As for each member of the community, you and your comments are seen as being the product: ("basically [...] lessons learned in focusing on your product and not managing servers.") Welcome to the new world. I cannot be part of something which we all despise and have worked so hard against. It is the very reason that this site was created. And now people don't seem to care any more."

### I mean you really sound like you agree with everything I am trying to do - the problems you detail are the problems I'm looking to solve.

### I mentioned my background - not because it's a salesman's patter - but because it explains what I do, how I know it, and where I come from. VC is important because going from 0$, a demo, and whatnot to unicorn status - that takes navigating a lot of tough issues. It's not purely tech. There is business, there is working with people, etc. Any one who has taken a company from nothing to their first million will understand "Good ideas are like assholes, everyone has one". The difference is the entrepeneur figured out that it's execution that matters and proved they can take a good idea and do something with it. Also my background in vc and in general isn't strictly the tech aspects of it. Shaping organizations, fixing failing businesses, righting the wrongs of dead enterprises - this is my wheelhouse.

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  • (Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 15 2023, @06:10AM (29 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 15 2023, @06:10AM (#1311513)

    I have to say I am starting to like this kolie. Not sure whether I have been taken in, or just appreciate him sticking it to the libs Janrinok. So my one question, after community rule is restrored, will I get my account restored? Can aristarchus come back?

    aristarchus /--this is an official signature, which I, aristarchus, signed, and not some sockpuppet like dalek wanting to appear to be all edge-lordish, and whatnot.

    [Think carefully before you answer. The Ghosts of a Minty Buzzard watch over this site, and they do not take transgressions lightly. ]

    Starting Score:    0  points
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       Interesting=3, Spam=2, Total=5
    Extra 'Interesting' Modifier   0  

    Total Score:   1  
  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by kolie on Thursday June 15 2023, @07:57AM (27 children)

    by kolie (2622) Subscriber Badge on Thursday June 15 2023, @07:57AM (#1311538) Journal

    Can't believe this got modded spam.

    I don't agree with spam shitposting and I can't say I take your approval as a glowing recommendation that gives me the warm fuzzies. You are a troll through and through and your questionable "contributions" aren't worth shit.

    But the fact that this was damn near civil and posted in earnest and got marked spam - which it clearly isn't - just because people disagree with it - kind of sucks. Yea it's low value. Yea it's borderline offensive troll shitposting. Yea you sound like you have a rabid hard-on for janrinok and your usual blind "lib" hate - these don't look pretty on you brother but thats the charm of the posts and you likely do it for the lulz and yolo it anyway. I don't see literal spam here though.

    I don't think there is hope for ari - definitely not holding my breath on that one. One improperly modded comment doesn't undig the hole of gaping fuck you make. I guess people just assume now ari post == bad post and mod accordingly. Or everyones just tired of your shit and mod it out of the way. Maybe the mod system works as it should. Maybe janrinok is working as he should. Maybe the "meta" works as it should and this is where you should be ari.

    • (Score: 5, Informative) by dalek on Thursday June 15 2023, @10:43AM (5 children)

      by dalek (15489) on Thursday June 15 2023, @10:43AM (#1311549)

      The reason aristarchus gets spam modded is here: https://soylentnews.org/meta/article.pl?sid=22/02/02/2038240 [soylentnews.org]. He was given a temporary ban for doxxing Runaway and told to behave himself for the three months he was banned. That was asking too much of aristarchus, and he decided to become much more disruptive during those three months. For that reason, his temporary ban became a permanent ban. As a condition of the permanent ban, his posts were to be modded spam. The moderation you see is aristarchus reaping the benefits of his lifetime achievement award.

      I can't help but notice that amid the apparent disputes over the future of the site, everyone just puts aside those differences to agree that aristarchus is a piece of shit.

      • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 16 2023, @03:11AM (4 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 16 2023, @03:11AM (#1311665)

        But how do you know these posts are aristarchus? There is no username, and all ACs look pretty much alike. Are you saying

        'he looks like one! May we burn him?

        (Monty Python and the Holy Grail)

        • (Score: 5, Insightful) by janrinok on Friday June 16 2023, @11:43AM (3 children)

          by janrinok (52) Subscriber Badge on Friday June 16 2023, @11:43AM (#1311693) Journal

          If I reveal the errors that he frequently makes he will probably stop making them. That wouldn't make my job any easier would it?

          From the site's FAQ page (and it has been there since 2014!):

          Are "Anonymous Coward" posts actually anonymous?

          When displayed to general readship accounts, yes. To accounts with site administration privileges, no. When an AC post is made by Soylent account holder X, its IP is hashed, and this is visible for up to about two weeks after the post is made to admin account holders. This hash matches the IP hash that appears with account X's non-anonymous posts, and so it is clear to the admin account holders that the AC is in fact Soylent user X. For this reason, when posting anonymously, if you actually want your post to be anonymous to everyone on Soylent, you should ensure that you make the post from a unique IP that is not the same IP you normally post from. Note: Just because a post can't be identified on Soylent to a particular account and IP, does not mean that the authorities can't associate posts with specific individuals. "Anonymous" is very much a relative term.

          How do you detect bad emails? Some times you can just look at them and know. "Dear mister, I represent the estate of the late Aristarchus Bin Idiot, a former Minister in our Government....." or "I have hacked into your computer and I have seen through you through your own camera ....." If I had a camera on my computer it probably wouldn't help because it is dark in my server room. These are all desk tops. Other times I can use the information that I have available to me. How do other people recognise various accounts on here even when they post as AC? aristarchus even recognises some of Runaway1956's posts. He must know how he does it.

          I do not have to look any further than on this site itself. I don't analyse browsers - I don't even see the connection details. I don't care which VPNs he uses (but I do know that because he has told us all), or whether he also employs TOR. I get a hash and the content of whatever is being posted. Have you ever looked at what times he is active? No? Is there a pattern? Yes. Sock puppets tend to be created when he believes I have gone to bed, not uniquely so, but there are plenty of other patterns one can look at. He went through a whole range of patterns for choosing sock puppet account usernames. Stones and minerals, famous people in history, ancient Greeks, names targetting me or other individuals, etc. He is all patterns.

          Other people can readily identify him - you seem to think that it is magic. It is not. If other ACs think that they can confuse me by posting similar comments using the same patterns as aristarchus does, you are wrong. If you emulate aristarchus you should not be surprised if you are treated like aristarchus.

          I don't want an IP address - what would I do with it? I am not trying to put a real-world name or home address to his account. I am certainly NOT about to dox him. I am not interested. He can only go where he is allowed to go. For an adult to behave as he does must be pretty embarrassing for him, particularly bearing in mind his (former?) profession (again, he told us that many years ago).

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          I am not interested in knowing who people are or where they live. My interest starts and stops at our servers.
          • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 16 2023, @06:01PM (2 children)

            by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 16 2023, @06:01PM (#1311727)

            Jan is obsessed. aristarchus is his White Whale, his APK, his Emmanuel Goldstein. He will hunt him down, across the Artic, in the depths of the Sahara and the Amazon, within the hole intertubes. He must not post!! I suggest you give this post two spam mods, and call back in the morning.

            • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 17 2023, @08:27AM (1 child)

              by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 17 2023, @08:27AM (#1311819)

              Which makes me wonder. Janrinok comments are tagged as janrinok comments, but perhaps they are not janrinok comments at all? How do we know that Editors are who they say they are, that NCommander is a real person, and thatr kolies is not, in fact, the real aristarchus with the funds of compounding interest since the days of Alexandria? Corporations, coporate their corpus into the future indefinitey. It could be aristarchus -corp. Alt-right politics will be futile against this.

              • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Monday June 19 2023, @07:17AM

                by Anonymous Coward on Monday June 19 2023, @07:17AM (#1312012)

                Thank goodness this post is modded -1 Troll, so we can know that some soylentils think it is trollish. I assume that means, not true? Or is it modded troll, because it actually is true? This is all so confusing. Are there any Nazis in the House?

    • (Score: 5, Insightful) by NotSanguine on Thursday June 15 2023, @05:03PM (1 child)

      I guess people just assume now ari post == bad post and mod accordingly. Or everyones just tired of your shit and mod it out of the way. Maybe the mod system works as it should. Maybe janrinok is working as he should. Maybe the "meta" works as it should and this is where you should be ari.

      From my perspective, once upon a time Ari was, while somewhat abrasive, mostly a positive contributor. That changed and he became the trollish, vengeful jerk who just had to strike at his perceived enemies.

      He went too far and doxxed (as others have noted here) at least one other user.

      IIRC, he was temp-banned as a result until he was willing to come to his senses and stop doing such things. He refused to stop and, as such, was pretty much perma-banned.

      The result was that the SN community made a "Free Speech" [xkcd.com] decision about Ari, As was appropriate IMHO.

      Ari seems to have taken some offense and has redirected his hate at the site in general and janrinok in particular.

      As I said elsewhere, I don't get it. Why waste time and energy in such a negative way?

      Personally, I want to be around people who want to be around me, and not all of those. One might hope Ari would recognize this but sadly, that hasn't happened. And more's the pity.

      --
      No, no, you're not thinking; you're just being logical. --Niels Bohr
      • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 15 2023, @09:11PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 15 2023, @09:11PM (#1311625)

        Or, TMB wanted him shut up, and a pretext was found. aristarchus did not suffer fools, and there were a lot of alt-right fools on SN, selling things like horse de-wormer paste. Not saying there was some vast right-wing conspiracy, but there was a vast (for a tiny site like this) right-wing conspiracy.

    • (Score: 3, Informative) by janrinok on Thursday June 15 2023, @06:23PM (17 children)

      by janrinok (52) Subscriber Badge on Thursday June 15 2023, @06:23PM (#1311606) Journal

      It is aristarchus.

      It is repetitive, off-topic, unwanted. If he names one of a handful of people too it is usually also a good clue. I can explain in another channel if you wish. The Spam moderation only applies to aristarchus, or those who are silly enough to pretend to be him.

      aristarchus was banned for doxxing another community member and inciting violence against him and members of his family.

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      I am not interested in knowing who people are or where they live. My interest starts and stops at our servers.
      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 15 2023, @09:18PM (6 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 15 2023, @09:18PM (#1311626)

        To be clear, someone inciting genocide is fine since it does not directly target a community member? If so, then how do you guarantee no community member, or one of their family, is not targeted by an unhinged reader of Soylent News? What if they socially engineered their way on to your staff? Having been falsely targeted as "aristarchus" and in no way pretending *gag* to be them, it gives me pause. Will your analytics determine that I am aristarchus to some believable percentage? Will some unhinged rightwinger hunt me down? Using TOR I am not terribly worried, but with white supremacists in the FBI and SS it is not outside the realm of possibility for abuse of power to get real.

        You have multiple bad actors on this site, yet aristarchus takes up the entirety of the conversation. Ooh look dopashiny!

        If threats of violence are not allowed on this forum, then enforce the rules evenly. Ditto for ignorant bigotry, people can have their feelings, not all feelings are welcome in a publuc forum. Why is the site hesitant to document that racism will be spam modded?

        Good day to you all. Trolls can shove it.

        • (Score: 3, Touché) by janrinok on Thursday June 15 2023, @11:26PM (5 children)

          by janrinok (52) Subscriber Badge on Thursday June 15 2023, @11:26PM (#1311642) Journal

          If you want to draft a rule and then put it forward for discussion and acceptance by the community, then you might have something to offer. Explain how you will assess the levels of racism or bigotry and which will warrant a specific punishment. Is referring to immigrants 'taking your jobs' acceptable, or is it just the things that you think are racist? Are certain political parties racist?

          If the community agree, then it can go in the rules.

          Doxxing was comparatively easy, especially when part of it was in submissions from a named account. We cannot investigate all addresses. In some cases we cannot contact the person being targetted to have information confirmed or otherwise. If we only delete those we know to be correct then we are confirming to the doxxer that a specific statement is correct. The reasonable solution it that we treat all of them as though they are genuine. Trying to make light of doxxing now by claiming that somebody lives at 27 Wallaby Drive, NSW is simply irrelevant. That was not what the original claims said. Doxxing is never a laughing matter.

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          I am not interested in knowing who people are or where they live. My interest starts and stops at our servers.
          • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 16 2023, @06:11PM (4 children)

            by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 16 2023, @06:11PM (#1311728)

            Yes, SoylentNews should have a "no genocide" rule. It is the least we can do after The Nuremberg Tribunals [usf.edu]. And, there is the International Convention Against Genocide, not to mention that since SN is a US-based PBC, the US Code making genocide illegal. [justice.gov] There is a reason that people advocating the murder of 50 million of their fellow humans are called Nazis.

            • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 16 2023, @10:01PM (3 children)

              by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 16 2023, @10:01PM (#1311770)

              Anti-genocide gets troll modded on SN? Next, will being anti-fascist also be banned? Kinda speaks to the nature of the beast.

              • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 17 2023, @08:21AM (2 children)

                by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 17 2023, @08:21AM (#1311817)

                And, an objection to a comment against genocide it troll modded as well? Do we have an women Saudis, here today? I want to make this perfectly clear, no one, and I mean NO ONE, is to throw a spam mod, until I blow this whistle, even if they do say aristarchus.

                [We all know how this ends. Save us, kolie, save us please!]

                • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 17 2023, @11:31AM (1 child)

                  by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 17 2023, @11:31AM (#1311833)

                  Jehovah! Jehovah! Yayweh! Dinesh D'Souza! Trump! God, I despise idols and false, um, things.

                  • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Monday June 19 2023, @07:22AM

                    by Anonymous Coward on Monday June 19 2023, @07:22AM (#1312013)

                    Janrinok, besides being a retired British Intel Officer, is a Hassidic Jew? No Oysters for you! Or cotton/polyester shirts! No work on the Sabbath, and John Goodman in "The Big Lebowski" lays down the path, y'all! "My buddies did not die face down in the mud of the rice paddies of 'Nam so that some fucking Realtor in New York City could pass tax cuts for the super wealthly. And, I can get you a toe. No problem."

      • (Score: -1, Offtopic) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 15 2023, @09:22PM (9 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 15 2023, @09:22PM (#1311627)

        Mark Twain famously said “a lie can travel halfway around the world while the truth is still putting on its shoes”, and in this case it is runaway lies that are being repeated about aristarchus. The man is more legend than reality, these days.

        Also, Mark Twain did not say that. And, double entendre intended.

        • (Score: 3, Insightful) by janrinok on Thursday June 15 2023, @11:33PM (8 children)

          by janrinok (52) Subscriber Badge on Thursday June 15 2023, @11:33PM (#1311644) Journal

          How did Runaway get access to aristarchus' account to make the submissions in his name? Was aristarchus so unaware of numerous fake submissions in his name that he just didn't notice?

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          I am not interested in knowing who people are or where they live. My interest starts and stops at our servers.
          • (Score: -1, Offtopic) by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 16 2023, @02:53AM

            by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 16 2023, @02:53AM (#1311662)

            Could be. Your evidence reads like a Trump defense.

          • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 16 2023, @10:06PM (6 children)

            by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 16 2023, @10:06PM (#1311772)

            How did Runaway get access to aristarchus' account to make the submissions in his name?

            Obviously, someone with admin privileges fed that to him. And, unfortunately, such malpractice is not inconceivable on SoylentNews.

            • (Score: 2) by janrinok on Saturday June 17 2023, @02:57AM (5 children)

              by janrinok (52) Subscriber Badge on Saturday June 17 2023, @02:57AM (#1311796) Journal

              We don't know your password. We can force the system to change it, but we don't see it.

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              I am not interested in knowing who people are or where they live. My interest starts and stops at our servers.
              • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 17 2023, @08:16AM (2 children)

                by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 17 2023, @08:16AM (#1311815)

                You know, it is very hard to be a good member of a community that tends toward Nazism. I have done my best. But mostly, kolie, I want you to know, that if you take over this community, there are severe and disabiliatory aspects of that. We have racists, we have anti-sciency types, we have, well, some really stupid soylentils. I will not name them, but you can tell when they recommend putting children in cages, or sucking down horse medicine, or resorting to weapons as compensation for stupidity. You know them, we all know them. I want to know that new management will smite these stupid right wing mother botherers. Seriously. Smite them hard, so they don't come back. If you have to PermaBan(tm) them like aristarchus, so be it. And if you have to ban chromas and janrinok, well, that is the way it is. And if Dalek turns out to be a member of the Prong Boys, or the 3% IQ people, or the Oaf Keeblers, we need to ban him as well. VLM, who wanted to cage imigrants, and Sulla, who is a pro-business Republican, and jmorris, who never logs in anymore, all these need attention. But mostly janrinok, since he has been a Nazi sympathizer, with the American Lindbergh, and Rush Lindbergh, and Truker Cancellation. These people are not true soytlentils, and need to be purged, mascerated, and discombubulated. Just saying.

                • (Score: 2) by janrinok on Saturday June 17 2023, @11:02AM (1 child)

                  by janrinok (52) Subscriber Badge on Saturday June 17 2023, @11:02AM (#1311831) Journal

                  right wing

                  Good to see that you are not displaying any bias here... Oh, wait.

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                  • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 17 2023, @11:34AM

                    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 17 2023, @11:34AM (#1311834)

                    Janrinok is the worst of them. Supported Hitler in '36, and only slightly less in '39. Old school racist Tories, you know.

              • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 18 2023, @12:23PM (1 child)

                by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 18 2023, @12:23PM (#1311927)

                Sweet. But, you know, the primary method that jan uses to ban new users, is to change the password, and then change the users password to one he controls, so that is it trivial for him to have the password for that account sent to him. Yes, he could sock-puppet banned accounts. And since there are so very many of them (let's see, thousands, charitably, of active users, but UIDs are up to 30K? That leaves a lot of space for hanky-panky, and mularkey. I no longer trust janrinok. Time for the new ownership to clean house. Soon.

                • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Monday June 19 2023, @07:28AM

                  by Anonymous Coward on Monday June 19 2023, @07:28AM (#1312014)

                  As a fellow banned new user, I just want to point out that what the parent post meant to say was that Admin (janrinok, exclusively) changes the email associated with the account, so the original embryonic soylentil cannot receive notification of a change of password, but janrinok can. Whether he does, or not? How much do you truth him?

    • (Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Monday June 26 2023, @08:11AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday June 26 2023, @08:11AM (#1313003)

      The alleged aristarchus post is still spam modded. This is a sign, an indicator, a foreshadowing of what is to come. The banishment of aristarchus is at the heart of everything that went wrong with SoylentNews. That, and the Horse de-wormer.

  • (Score: 4, Touché) by janrinok on Thursday June 15 2023, @06:34PM

    by janrinok (52) Subscriber Badge on Thursday June 15 2023, @06:34PM (#1311608) Journal

    will I get my account restored? Can aristarchus come back?

    1. That appears to be 2 questions. AC account hasn't been blocked, disabled, banned or anything else for that matter.

    2. No.

    Feel free to send another whinging email to my usual address. I've emptied my waste bin in anticipation.

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