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posted by NCommander on Monday March 10 2014, @11:17AM   Printer-friendly
from the i-am-so-fucking-sick-of-this-drama dept.

Update: 10 March 2014 20:20 UTC. Follow here for the latest.

Update: 10 March 2014 19:10 UTC.

At this point Barrabas reports he is exchanging email with the buyer but refuses to say anything. Until we hear from them, we have to hope for the best but plan for the worst. If this link goes down, please go to the linode site where we will regroup. We will use that link as a fallback if necessary.

Update: 10 March 2014 18:30 UTC.

Barrabas reports in IRC he has received funds for the site and has sold the domain name. The terms of this sale, as well as its buyer, have not been disclosed. We await additional information. If you have information on this, please contact us at admin @ soylentnews . org

Update: 10 March 2014 16:30 UTC.

Due to NCommander's personal involvement with the situation he is recusing himself from negotiations. I (Mattie_p) am currently working with the staff to figure out how to address this incident. We have posted a poll which is available and should show up shortly on the front page.

Original text:

We've been held hostage by John:

Working with NCommander
Am I The Bad Guy

Right now, I can't write a coherent response properly (I'm writing this from a Mac Store right now as some sort of response was necessary). Despite John's offer, we never used the Linode's he purchased for hosting slash, and the two services (forums and wiki) that were hosted on them were migrated. I had hoped that this would have been a private issue between me and John, to be handed by email with a proper agreement, but the site itself is now at risk.

Right now, I'm organizing a response with out staff now, but I won't be home for several hours so MrBluze is currently handling the crisis. He can hand off to mattie_p when he returns, or myself when I have proper net access again. John's offer does not reflect myself or any of the staff here, nor does he have what he says he has. The web server, dev server (fusion forge), and database were always hosted on Linode's on my personal account. John DID have access to the Linode account which was revoked when he left staff, but to my knowledge never had the root password or shell accounts on any of the boxes. That access was revoked. It is possible he has a copy of the database, I do not know for sure. He does not at this moment have access to any of the hardware powering the site. He does however control the DNS register and can possibly yank the site from under us. If that happens, I can send a mass email to every user account to inform them of what happened, and where we are now. We supposedly have until Friday until John drops everything in the trash unless someone pays him $2000 USD. As per the posts, I was willing to pay him, but I had some issue with the expenses as written (my emails are genuine, as is the email I received from John), but I'm currently in Asia, and have no practical way to send him a check until I return to the continental United States on Sunday; I informed John of this on IRC originally.

We're currently in scramble mode to try and organize a new name, and getting migrated as soon as possible. I was serious when I said I was done with the drama but it appears John isn't. I'm personally sorry to have to inflict this on the community, and if you wish to leave us, I shall not blame you in the slightest.

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  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by wantkitteh on Monday March 10 2014, @11:51AM

    by wantkitteh (3362) on Monday March 10 2014, @11:51AM (#13851) Homepage Journal

    Too many is bad, but Pipenews does at least have that wonderful threaded view of the comments that /. uses, my one complaint about SN so far has been it's poor comment section navigation.

    Starting Score:    1  point
    Moderation   +2  
       Insightful=2, Total=2
    Extra 'Insightful' Modifier   0  

    Total Score:   3  
  • (Score: 2, Insightful) by Marneus68 on Monday March 10 2014, @11:55AM

    by Marneus68 (3572) on Monday March 10 2014, @11:55AM (#13856) Homepage

    That's pretty nice indeed. I wish SL had this already. Too bad there are not that many people actually using Pipedot.

    • (Score: 4, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 10 2014, @11:59AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 10 2014, @11:59AM (#13863)

      Another problem with Pipedot is that the code is not open-source AFAICT so it can't be forked if it sells out. I don't know what the author's stance is on this, though.

      • (Score: 1) by SleazyRidr on Monday March 10 2014, @07:10PM

        by SleazyRidr (882) on Monday March 10 2014, @07:10PM (#14185)

        Is being open-sourced really that big of a deal though? This site got a big pile of code from the open repository and cocked it up. Pipedot just got to work emulating the functionality and seems to be doing a good job of it. Even if the way it works changes a little as long as the person/people running it can get something vaguely functional happening it will be good.

  • (Score: 0) by crutchy on Monday March 10 2014, @01:00PM

    by crutchy (179) on Monday March 10 2014, @01:00PM (#13900) Homepage Journal

    i added collapsible comments in a pull request. it was a bit of a hack but worked.
    not sure if/when it will be merged though.

  • (Score: 2) by mrcoolbp on Monday March 10 2014, @02:19PM

    by mrcoolbp (68) <> on Monday March 10 2014, @02:19PM (#13970) Homepage

    Threaded expandable comments done properly with proper fall backs: This is already in the pipeline here BTW.

    (Score:1^½, Radical)
    • (Score: 2, Insightful) by wantkitteh on Monday March 10 2014, @04:09PM

      by wantkitteh (3362) on Monday March 10 2014, @04:09PM (#14049) Homepage Journal


      I sincerely hope these issues can be worked out without SN going tits-up. SN is building up a nice critical mass of users and has great long-term survival hopes, it would be a tragic shame on all concerned if that concentration of participants was scattered around the web because a few simple management conflicts and practicalities.

  • (Score: 2) by wantkitteh on Friday March 14 2014, @02:26PM

    by wantkitteh (3362) on Friday March 14 2014, @02:26PM (#16391) Homepage Journal

    Late to the discussion, but this Greasemonkey plugin adds this feature quite nicely: []