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posted by NCommander on Monday March 10 2014, @11:17AM   Printer-friendly
from the i-am-so-fucking-sick-of-this-drama dept.

Update: 10 March 2014 20:20 UTC. Follow here for the latest.

Update: 10 March 2014 19:10 UTC.

At this point Barrabas reports he is exchanging email with the buyer but refuses to say anything. Until we hear from them, we have to hope for the best but plan for the worst. If this link goes down, please go to the linode site where we will regroup. We will use that link as a fallback if necessary.

Update: 10 March 2014 18:30 UTC.

Barrabas reports in IRC he has received funds for the site and has sold the domain name. The terms of this sale, as well as its buyer, have not been disclosed. We await additional information. If you have information on this, please contact us at admin @ soylentnews . org

Update: 10 March 2014 16:30 UTC.

Due to NCommander's personal involvement with the situation he is recusing himself from negotiations. I (Mattie_p) am currently working with the staff to figure out how to address this incident. We have posted a poll which is available and should show up shortly on the front page.

Original text:

We've been held hostage by John:

Working with NCommander
Am I The Bad Guy

Right now, I can't write a coherent response properly (I'm writing this from a Mac Store right now as some sort of response was necessary). Despite John's offer, we never used the Linode's he purchased for hosting slash, and the two services (forums and wiki) that were hosted on them were migrated. I had hoped that this would have been a private issue between me and John, to be handed by email with a proper agreement, but the site itself is now at risk.

Right now, I'm organizing a response with out staff now, but I won't be home for several hours so MrBluze is currently handling the crisis. He can hand off to mattie_p when he returns, or myself when I have proper net access again. John's offer does not reflect myself or any of the staff here, nor does he have what he says he has. The web server, dev server (fusion forge), and database were always hosted on Linode's on my personal account. John DID have access to the Linode account which was revoked when he left staff, but to my knowledge never had the root password or shell accounts on any of the boxes. That access was revoked. It is possible he has a copy of the database, I do not know for sure. He does not at this moment have access to any of the hardware powering the site. He does however control the DNS register and can possibly yank the site from under us. If that happens, I can send a mass email to every user account to inform them of what happened, and where we are now. We supposedly have until Friday until John drops everything in the trash unless someone pays him $2000 USD. As per the posts, I was willing to pay him, but I had some issue with the expenses as written (my emails are genuine, as is the email I received from John), but I'm currently in Asia, and have no practical way to send him a check until I return to the continental United States on Sunday; I informed John of this on IRC originally.

We're currently in scramble mode to try and organize a new name, and getting migrated as soon as possible. I was serious when I said I was done with the drama but it appears John isn't. I'm personally sorry to have to inflict this on the community, and if you wish to leave us, I shall not blame you in the slightest.

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  • (Score: 5, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 10 2014, @01:33PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 10 2014, @01:33PM (#13930)

    I'll be honest. From an outsider's point of view, you both come off as childish assholes. John giving up on the site seemed shitty at first. Michael's posting of "dirty laundry" over it all was petty and honestly, the interactions between the two made Michael look like a controlling, power-hungry asshole. Then John's snapping back and airing more dirty laundry, then "holding the site hostage" came off as petty vindictive behavior. Now Michael's whining and bitching about it is the icing on the dogshit cake that we're all eating right now. Maybe you should both grow up and act like adults.

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 10 2014, @02:43PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 10 2014, @02:43PM (#13988)

    ...and I just want to have the myth in my head that the founders of SN are cool people.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 10 2014, @04:50PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 10 2014, @04:50PM (#14092)

    mod this up please!

  • (Score: 1) by Skarjak on Monday March 10 2014, @06:12PM

    by Skarjak (730) on Monday March 10 2014, @06:12PM (#14148)

    I would give you all my mod points if I had any.

    At this point I'd prefer if Micheal didn't own this site. I'm hoping some other user ponies up the cash first so we can be rid of this whole drama.

  • (Score: 1) by zafiro17 on Monday March 10 2014, @07:40PM

    by zafiro17 (234) on Monday March 10 2014, @07:40PM (#14199) Homepage

    Furthermore, the story is essentially being related at this point by one side only. Haven't heard much from John, as far as I can tell. I think the guy is out of pocket $2000 and wants to be reimbursed. So would I. But I get the impression NCommander is trying to spin things in his own favor, and since he posted the article, got to use the incendiary topic word "hostage" which put a lot of subjective spin on what's going on.

    What if the title had been "Barrabas turns over site; asks for reimbursement." It would be a non-issue.

    Pipedot doesn't have this kind of drama. And Usenet is incapable of it because no one person can take it down because of lack of funding. Suck it you Web 3.0 weenies :)

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