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posted by NCommander on Monday March 10 2014, @11:17AM   Printer-friendly
from the i-am-so-fucking-sick-of-this-drama dept.

Update: 10 March 2014 20:20 UTC. Follow here for the latest.

Update: 10 March 2014 19:10 UTC.

At this point Barrabas reports he is exchanging email with the buyer but refuses to say anything. Until we hear from them, we have to hope for the best but plan for the worst. If this link goes down, please go to the linode site where we will regroup. We will use that link as a fallback if necessary.

Update: 10 March 2014 18:30 UTC.

Barrabas reports in IRC he has received funds for the site and has sold the domain name. The terms of this sale, as well as its buyer, have not been disclosed. We await additional information. If you have information on this, please contact us at admin @ soylentnews . org

Update: 10 March 2014 16:30 UTC.

Due to NCommander's personal involvement with the situation he is recusing himself from negotiations. I (Mattie_p) am currently working with the staff to figure out how to address this incident. We have posted a poll which is available and should show up shortly on the front page.

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We've been held hostage by John:

Working with NCommander
Am I The Bad Guy

Right now, I can't write a coherent response properly (I'm writing this from a Mac Store right now as some sort of response was necessary). Despite John's offer, we never used the Linode's he purchased for hosting slash, and the two services (forums and wiki) that were hosted on them were migrated. I had hoped that this would have been a private issue between me and John, to be handed by email with a proper agreement, but the site itself is now at risk.

Right now, I'm organizing a response with out staff now, but I won't be home for several hours so MrBluze is currently handling the crisis. He can hand off to mattie_p when he returns, or myself when I have proper net access again. John's offer does not reflect myself or any of the staff here, nor does he have what he says he has. The web server, dev server (fusion forge), and database were always hosted on Linode's on my personal account. John DID have access to the Linode account which was revoked when he left staff, but to my knowledge never had the root password or shell accounts on any of the boxes. That access was revoked. It is possible he has a copy of the database, I do not know for sure. He does not at this moment have access to any of the hardware powering the site. He does however control the DNS register and can possibly yank the site from under us. If that happens, I can send a mass email to every user account to inform them of what happened, and where we are now. We supposedly have until Friday until John drops everything in the trash unless someone pays him $2000 USD. As per the posts, I was willing to pay him, but I had some issue with the expenses as written (my emails are genuine, as is the email I received from John), but I'm currently in Asia, and have no practical way to send him a check until I return to the continental United States on Sunday; I informed John of this on IRC originally.

We're currently in scramble mode to try and organize a new name, and getting migrated as soon as possible. I was serious when I said I was done with the drama but it appears John isn't. I'm personally sorry to have to inflict this on the community, and if you wish to leave us, I shall not blame you in the slightest.

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  • (Score: 5, Insightful) by pasky on Monday March 10 2014, @01:35PM

    by pasky (1050) on Monday March 10 2014, @01:35PM (#13933)

    I think John's behavior is very childish here, but I also think *you* are at fault.

    Seriously, do you value this whole site and community at less than $2000? Then why are you bothering at all? So the guy that's leaving wants $2000, and IIRC was upfront about that before too. Pay him $2000, to be on the safe side write a short contract that just lists the persons involved and exactly what is getting transferred, and be done with it. If you feel like a drama queen, you can also ex post complain how much money did the other guy make from the site, in your feeling.

    If you start petty fights about $2000, how is that good business? The damage you are doing to the community is immense here, and if you believe in this site, *way* more than the $2000. I.e., you are losing money big here; John is the original cause, but you are at fault as it was your fundamental decision not to pay.

    IOW, you are buying the site with this, receipts are illustrative but not crucial. $2000 does not seem like an outlandish price for such site with such community. Well, it *did* not, now who knows...

    But in any situation at all, never stop posting news for long. If the site goes without regular news stream once for 12 or 24 hours, people who don't care about the drama will stop coming, likely forever.

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  • (Score: 2) by VLM on Monday March 10 2014, @02:04PM

    by VLM (445) on Monday March 10 2014, @02:04PM (#13955)

    "$2000 does not seem like an outlandish price for such site with such community."

    If Google will pay $3.2 billion for a thermostat, maybe they would pay $2K for some Soylent flavored news?