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  • (Score: 1) by khallow on Friday December 01 2023, @02:06AM (5 children)

    by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Friday December 01 2023, @02:06AM (#1334808) Journal

    As for metals, if the dumps are so superior why are we still mining raw ores?

    They're typically in populated areas. That means little space for things like tailings or leach ponds. It also means significant restrictions on pollution and noise.

    Getting a civilization to space requires a concentrated effort that won't be achievable again if we become a society living on recycled metals and sustainable solar energy. We will probably still launch satellites, but we won't be mining the asteroids and setting up colonies.

    SpaceX shows it doesn't require a civilization to colonize space.

    I bet you could find groups now that would favour taxing SpaceX into oblivion and using the money to "help the poor". They will get louder and more influential if things get tougher.

    Sure. Already we see people angsting over the threat to the pristine "environment" of the Moon or the danger that someone somewhere might make money in space. This is balanced by these people having zero ability to do anything in space. So anyone who manages to get up there will be playing a different ball game.

  • (Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Friday December 01 2023, @05:37AM (2 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday December 01 2023, @05:37AM (#1334821)

    I am quite assured that khallow will never make any money from space. In fact, not sure he is making much from emptying the vending machines at Jellystone. Booboo! Get the Pikinic basket!

    • (Score: 1) by khallow on Friday December 01 2023, @05:13PM (1 child)

      by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Friday December 01 2023, @05:13PM (#1334879) Journal
      I find it interesting how some people mock me for not making gobs of money when it's painfully obvious that I'm not trying. Do you really not see it?

      • (Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday December 02 2023, @10:54AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Saturday December 02 2023, @10:54AM (#1334953)

        I find it interesting that many mock khallow, when khallow does not endeavor to be mocked! Mod points for low effort! Excellent!!!

  • (Score: 2) by deimtee on Saturday December 02 2023, @01:42PM (1 child)

    by deimtee (3272) on Saturday December 02 2023, @01:42PM (#1334963) Journal

    SpaceX shows it doesn't require a civilization to colonize space.

    SpaceX is one company driven by a guy with a dream. He got the money to pursue that dream by being one of the first in an expanding new industry.

    That won't happen again if we move to a steady-state sustainable civilisation. Look at what happened to Thomas Jerome Newton and D.D. Harriman for an idea at what is going to happen to any future visionaries looking to travel to space in a "sustainable" crab-bucket future.

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    • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 03 2023, @09:42AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 03 2023, @09:42AM (#1335034)

      So many things wrong with your post.

      SpaceX is one company driven by a guy with a dream. He got the money to pursue that dream by being one of the first in an expanding new industry.

      Really? Are you this ignorant? Let me tell you about generational wealth, colonialism, and gem mines in South Africa.

      That won't happen again if we move to a steady-state sustainable civilisation. Look at what happened to Thomas Jerome Newton and D.D. Harriman for an idea at what is going to happen to any future visionaries looking to travel to space in a "sustainable" crab-bucket future.

      Who? And you are appealing to a science fiction past to make some point about a libertarian dystopican future? The "crab-bucket" cinches it. Yes, the crabs pull down any crab trying to elevate themselves over the other crabs, but you miss a crucial thing: Then they rip them apart and eat them. Eat the rich! And the libertarians, despite the smell and gag-reflex. Desperate futures call for desperate measures.