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China blocks use of Intel and AMD chips in government computers, FT reports By Reuters:
(Reuters) -China has introduced guidelines to phase out U.S. microprocessors from Intel (NASDAQ:INTC) and AMD (NASDAQ:AMD) from government personal computers and servers, the Financial Times reported on Sunday.
The procurement guidance also seeks to sideline Microsoft (NASDAQ:MSFT)'s Windows operating system and foreign-made database software in favour of domestic options, the report said.
Government agencies above the township level have been told to include criteria requiring "safe and reliable" processors and operating systems when making purchases, the newspaper said.
China's industry ministry in late December issued a statement with three separate lists of CPUs, operating systems and centralised database deemed "safe and reliable" for three years after the publication date, all from Chinese companies, Reuters checks showed.
[...] The U.S. has been aiming to boost domestic semiconductor output and reduce reliance on China and Taiwan with the Biden administration's 2022 CHIPS and Science Act.
It is designed to bolster U.S. semiconductors and contains financial aid for domestic production with subsidies for production of advanced chips.
(Score: 5, Insightful) by lush7 on Tuesday April 02 2024, @12:49AM (4 children)
...For my two cents, this is disheartening. I'd much rather us, globally, as human citizens, working towards greater integration with each-other in a distributed sense, rather than going down the path of each individual nation, upon reaching a certain technological milestone, seeking to create it's own computing architecture.
I know there is the tit for tat of game theory, and all the greatest minds and leaders, and their positions and findings and what have you...
...but, I'd much rather be in a world where we can trust our neighbors, share and use the same silicon, perhaps even work on it together.
Open architectures, transparent silicon, and trust.
My two cents...
(Score: 3, Interesting) by loonycyborg on Tuesday April 02 2024, @01:24AM (2 children)
In longer term it can actually be advantageous because requiring national chip industry would give a chance to more alternative projects to exist without being crowded out by global incumbents. Even if most of them will be barely good enough to service government needs it's still more chance for more people to get actual experience. It's kinda like biological evolution, it goes ahead by trying a lot of things even though most of them are random mutations and thus suck. But without this random trying the minuscule worthy(for very subjective definition of it) things won't even have a chance to exist.
(Score: 2, Insightful) by lush7 on Tuesday April 02 2024, @01:55AM (1 child)
I can see that and agree with that, in the distributed sense of things, evolution wise; that's kind of what I was saying. But, the heart of it, as I understand it, is distrust among nations. Avoidable or not, I think that's what I consider the disappointing part.
(Score: 4, Interesting) by Gaaark on Tuesday April 02 2024, @04:29PM
And this is why the world needs to drop Microsoft products: lack of trust.
As you said, "Open" is the operative word. No 'closed' architecture or software.
China is actually taking a bolder, smarter step forward towards the future by embracing linux (although, will they keep OpenKylin 'open' is the buggering question).
Embracing Windows is just stupid: it's been hacked to pieces (funnily(?), Windows is more 'open' than linux because of all of it's holes and hacks) and it's a really shoddy product.
If 'we' can get software companies to write more software for linux (and this may actually happen with China's embracing linux, so golf clap to them), the world will be a better place.
Drop this shit called Windows, with so many holes and back-doors in it, and move into the future: Open products, not 'Closed but Open to hackers and government agencies' products.
I trust wife and most of my family, but could i be sold out by any of them? Sure, when you actually think about it.
So, can you trust your family/neighbour/neighbouring nation/nation leaders? When you really think about it.... no. They could be hiding your down-fall from you, biding their time.
Trust is hard earned, and one thing i've learned from the whole English Canada vs. French Quebec (which translates to everywhere in the world) is: don't trust politicians to fix things. Get people with brains together, pour the beer/wine/? and get ordinary people talking. Politicians will f*ck you every time.
Politicians are like social media: they're there to stir the pot and provide bread and circuses to distract you from the guy behind the curtain.
They try to get you to pick a side and blow the trumpet for 'my side'.
Ordinary people can talk without the agenda.
--- Please remind me if I haven't been civil to you: I'm channeling MDC. ---Gaaark 2.0 ---
(Score: 4, Interesting) by crafoo on Tuesday April 02 2024, @05:27AM
No thank you. I would much, much prefer a strong nation with a strong centralized government looking out for the people of the nation rather than be ruled by cosmopolitan financiers, globalist bureaucrats, and coin-clipping middlemen owing no allegiance to any nation. I'll take Hamilton's and Washington's original vision: strength, a jealous and wary eye towards foreign interlopers, strong tariffs promoting industry and rising wages at home.