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posted by janrinok on Sunday February 15 2015, @06:27AM   Printer-friendly
from the surprise-surprise dept.

The New York Times reports that President Obama met yesterday with the nation’s top tech executives and company officials on a host of cybersecurity issues and the threats posed by increasingly sophisticated hackers amid a deepening estrangement between Silicon Valley and the government. “What has struck me is the enormous degree of hostility between Silicon Valley and the government,” says Herb Lin. “The relationship has been poisoned, and it’s not going to recover anytime soon.”

American firms are increasingly concerned about international competitiveness, and that means making a very public show of their efforts to defeat American intelligence-gathering by installing newer, harder-to-break encryption systems and demonstrating their distance from the United States government. “In some cases that is driving them to resistance to Washington,” says Obama’s cybersecurity coordinator, Michael Daniel. “But it’s not that simple. In other cases, with what’s going on in China,” where Beijing is insisting that companies turn over the software that is their lifeblood, “they are very interested in getting Washington’s help.”

Silicon Valley execs have also been fuming quietly over the government’s use of zero-day flaws. “The government is realizing they can’t just blow into town and let bygones be bygones,” says Eric Grosse, Google’s vice president of security and privacy. “Our business depends on trust. If you lose it, it takes years to regain.”

 
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  • (Score: 4, Interesting) by hemocyanin on Sunday February 15 2015, @07:25PM

    by hemocyanin (186) on Sunday February 15 2015, @07:25PM (#145349) Journal

    There is a pretty huge gap between the rights people think they have, and the rights the government thinks they have, and the sad part, because most people couldn't even afford a half day of Supreme Court representation while the government can afford all it wants on the tax payers' dimes, is that that fact isn't going to change.

    I'm very liberal (*). I don't like seeing people loading a shotgun on a public street and I definitely question the wisdom of doing so as a way to make point (seems like a great way to get most people to not support your cause). However, the Bill of Rights is what it is and I accept it wholeheartedly, including the 2nd amendment. What so many lefties seem to miss (and rightists but on different amendments like the 1st, 4th, and 5th), is that if you enable the government to skirt one amendment, you enable it skirt them all. The only way gun control would be appropriate is through an amendment. All of these statutes/ordinances chipping away at it just provide precedent for destroying everything else -- freedom of the press, freedom of (and from) religion, due process, privacy, etc., etc. The Bill of Rights is not a smorgasboard and if treated as such by mere statute (as contrasted with a constitutional amendment), then the government is empowered gobbled it all up, and shit it out into a meaningless pile of words.

    The sad reality though, is that the destruction of the BOR is a fait acompli at this point. Even so, my (worthless) opinion is that it should have been protected as a whole because as we can see today, when it isn't, everything goes by the wayside. I'd like to see a return to a respect for the BOR which is why, as a granola eating sandal and socks lefty, I support the 2nd Amendment.

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    (*) I view Democrats as the "New GOP", and such war happy, wall street loving, surveillance enthralled neo-cons that if Nixon could have done half what the DNC now supports, he'd have been debilitated with an unending 24/7 orgasm.

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  • (Score: 1) by Fauxlosopher on Monday February 16 2015, @04:22AM

    by Fauxlosopher (4804) on Monday February 16 2015, @04:22AM (#145479) Journal

    We are likely to be much more in agreement than otherwise, and find that our disagreements ultimately rest on mere personal preferences that others have no standing to object to.

    Rights, freedoms, laws, and all the rest appear to rest upon one out of two conditions: governments rule over individuals either by sheer force, or by the delegated consent and authority of the individual. Slavery absolutely existed, and still exists today in both defacto and dejure form. If people living in the USA, like me, are either defacto or dejure slaves, then none of this noise over the Bill of Rights, the Constitution, or anything else matters beyond a simple means to obtain enough force to fight and win against the current masters.

    However... if the USA is a nation with a government put in place by the delegated authority of the individual, ah, now THAT has some interesting and massive consequences. This would mean that government has limits, and that those limits cannot - even at worst - exceed the authority of a single, lone individual. In otherwords, should this be the case, government cannot do anything that a single individual cannot also do. This might initially sound outlandish. I've written two short papers attempting to concisely detail this claim, posted to my journal, if they are of interest. The first is in regards to authority [soylentnews.org], and the second pertains to its limitations [soylentnews.org].

    • (Score: 2) by cafebabe on Tuesday February 17 2015, @12:41PM

      by cafebabe (894) on Tuesday February 17 2015, @12:41PM (#146080) Journal

      I cannot support either part of your argument because it requires religious belief to extend beyond an individual. This is contradictory in addition to being an appeal to authority. This is a shame because I hoped it would provide sound reasoning for equal footing under law in addition to supporting https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?sid=6118&cid=145349 [soylentnews.org]

      A more concise formulation would be that under absolute monarchy, nothing is permissible unless specifically enumerated and that in a free land, everything is permissible unless specifically enumerated. Students of computer science will recognize this as whitelisting and blacklisting respectively and understand the limitations of each technique.

      Indeed, "whitelisting" got us to the Industrial Revolution and "blacklisting" got us to the Computer Revolution but with the increasing number of existential threats, perhaps another stint of "whitelisting" should be considered even if it is not desirable.

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      • (Score: 1) by Fauxlosopher on Sunday March 08 2015, @01:45PM

        by Fauxlosopher (4804) on Sunday March 08 2015, @01:45PM (#154434) Journal

        Oops, I didn't see your reply until just now. While my writing shows that I obviously believe there to be a Creator of the universe who sets the standards of morality, I do not believe the reasoning of my assertions require the existence of a Creator.

        John Locke wrote about the "state of nature", a situation where humans exist without an established or recognizable government, and used reason to form the assertion that, in essence, no one human has legitimate authority to exercise his/her power in a manner that conflicts with a different human's authority. Much of the reasoning centers around ownership of property, to specifically ask and answer the question of who owns a given human's body. The primary writing on this is, as I recall, contained in his Second Treatise of Government [constitution.org].

  • (Score: 2) by cafebabe on Tuesday February 17 2015, @10:15AM

    by cafebabe (894) on Tuesday February 17 2015, @10:15AM (#146051) Journal

    as a granola eating sandal and socks lefty, I support the 2nd Amendment.

    Sandals aren't my style but I've been described as being to the left of Richard Stallman and I support the Second Amendment for the same reasons. Some people may think that the Second Amendment is quaint or dangerous but it is one axiom of a good foundation.

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