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Following closely after the release of version 256, version 256.1 fixes a handful of bugs. One of these is emphatically not systemd-tmpfiles recursively deleting your entire home directory. That's a feature.
The 256.1 release is now out, containing some 38 minor changes and bugfixes. Among these are some changes to the help text around the systemd-tmpfiles command, which describes itself as a tool to "Create, delete, and clean up files and directories." Red Hat's RHEL documentation describes it as a tool for managing and cleaning up your temporary files.
That sounds innocuous enough, right?
It isn't, as Github user jedenastka discovered on Friday. He filed bug #33349 and the description makes for harrowing reading, not just because of the tool's entirely intended behavior, but also because of the systemd maintainers' response, which could be summarized as "you're doing it wrong".
(Score: 4, Interesting) by Reziac on Sunday June 23 2024, @03:45AM (8 children)
Yeah, my favorite is PCLinuxOS, no systemd. And rolling, which I've come to prefer.
So long as it Just Works I don't care one way or the other, but the durn thing needs to be ready for prime time before inflicting it on the users.
And there is no Alkibiades to come back and save us from ourselves.
(Score: 2) by RS3 on Sunday June 23 2024, @10:36AM (5 children)
From the top of their website: "PCLinuxOS The Boomer Distribution"
Okay, I'll try it anyway. :)
Yeah, it looks really good. I wasn't a fan of .rpm when it first came out long ago, but I grew to like it, yum, etc. Looks like they'll run apt too. I don't know if anyone has a unified package manager, but that'd be 'uge.
I remember why I didn't try it when I was evaluating systemd-less distros: it's 64-bit only, and I have need for OS update on someone's 32-bit hardware. But I'll still try it for my own hardware.
(Score: 3, Interesting) by Reziac on Sunday June 23 2024, @02:10PM
I liked the Drak installer a lot better. Tex recently changed to one that actually requires user input if you want partitions. Used to be two clicks to confirm defaults, done. Don't feel like I can hand the new one to raw newbies.
Yeah, that's his GFY, Tex has no patience with dumb shit like the recent spate of hate for boomers (Day of the Pillow, as one guy puts it) by people incompetent to fix their own lives. ;P
You can do all the usual CLI package mgmt but I think I've needed to look outside Synaptic ... once? because at one point SeaMonkey wasn't available (so I just found an RPM and unzipped it). PCLOS apparently uses a hybrid; having no need to delve in the guts, I don't care. :)
The only real downside is that it's a one man band and when Tex goes (old guy and health not great) will anyone competent step up? Devuan now uses our desktop and general way of doing things, but Devuan has the same upgrade woes as Debian (which recently insisted that it must do a full reinstall... against my religion, I already dislike Debian, why are you selling me on =everything= else??).Still haven't found another I'd happily jump to, at need. So... PCLOS as long as I can.
Yeah, 32bit support got dropped a few years back... kind of a shame because it will run reasonably well on REALLY old hardware. I have it on a 2008 laptop of minimal specs (2GB RAM) and it's fine. With KDE desktop only uses about 600mb RAM, and with Trinity or Openbox only about 300mb. (Vs. a friend reported Ubuntu now using 1.9GB just to admire its navel. What are we, Windows 10??) On the newer hardware (i7-3xxx) and an old SSD, it's literally 5 seconds from boot to usable desktop.
And there is no Alkibiades to come back and save us from ourselves.
(Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 23 2024, @04:28PM (3 children)
I just can't get over how dumb the name is--it's doubly redundant. "PCLinuxOS"...everybody knows Linux is an OS, and it being on PC is the main use case; why do you need to state it outright? Now you're left with a name that is breathtakingly generic, and if you get rid of all the redundancy reduces to "Linux". It doesn't even contain any unique info in the name at all :P
(Score: 2) by Reziac on Monday June 24 2024, @01:43PM
Agreed, it's a bloody silly name, but.... no worse than the weird and irrelevant names that so many linux things get tagged with. At least it's obvious what it is, no guesswork or lookups required. And that was kinda the point, I think.
And there is no Alkibiades to come back and save us from ourselves.
(Score: 1) by shrewdsheep on Tuesday June 25 2024, @01:17PM (1 child)
No, no, no...
Linux is just a kernel, it is GNU/Linux. Stallman would turn over in his grave. Ducks....
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 26 2024, @04:54AM
Let's just admit that the ship has sailed on that at some point in the last 33 years.
(Score: 2) by ls671 on Monday June 24 2024, @08:58AM (1 child)
Sounds interesting. Website says it uses apt. Did you ever tried installing application provided on alternative sites as apt packages or even debian repository packages with it? I still use Slackware nowadays along with debian as well.
It's easier to simply install an apt package on debian and a lot more stuff is available than in Slackware repositories. For Slackware you need to compile from sources sometimes or use alternative package sites.
Rolling releases sounds like a great idea too.
So, how compatible are debain packages with PCLinuxOS?
Thanks in advance!
Everything I write is lies, including this sentence.
(Score: 2) by Reziac on Monday June 24 2024, @01:40PM
I don't know, as when I want something I just fire up Synaptic and... our repository is freakin' huge. And the one time something wasn't there (SeaMonkey, of all things), I found an RPM and unzipped it and ran it directly (sort of a poor man's container). I think I've visited the command line... once? whereas with Fedora, I found it easier to do all the maintenance and installs in at the CL (Discover is just too freakin' slow, and fails on a slow connection).
Advantage, rolling is always up to date; busted things are fixed a lot faster, and I have not seen any deficits from "more bugs". Disadvantage, you need to stay on top of updates; if it gets severely out of date you may have trouble. But one of our number started from the oldest version that would still run (2011 or 2012 vintage) and rolled it all the way to the present (then 2022, IIRC) and only had to visit the CL twice to unstick something. My current install was done in 2017 and frozen about a year ago (good thing as turned out I needed an old Chrome...) and one of these days I ought to set up a fresh one.
I appreciate the slick performance (KDE desktop running at JWM speed, and minimal RAM usage), stability, and that everything Just Works. I used to mess with, uh, challenging OSs, but am past the stage where I'm willing to fight with the OS just to use it. With PCLOS I just install (a five minute process), do some cosmetic tweaks, done.
And there is no Alkibiades to come back and save us from ourselves.