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  • (Score: 5, Interesting) by frojack on Tuesday March 11 2014, @10:12PM

    by frojack (1554) on Tuesday March 11 2014, @10:12PM (#14907) Journal

    The IRC channel seems to be a huge distraction that sucks attention away from well thought out posts on lots of stories, in exchange for a never ending stream of banalities about bacon.

    At any given time there are over a hundred people logged in on IRC, and our stories end up getting very thin discussion. I've seen stories scroll off the main page with no comments.

    IRC saps the website of content. Because people only have so much time. But for SN to have and promote a IRC channel, simply steals intellectual effort and mind share away from the site and pushes it to a back channel. I'm not sure it is healthy for the site.

    On the other hand, I realize that people are going to do what they want to do, they will find IRC somewhere if they want to. Judging from the content of the IRC channel, not much of it would be useful on the site. So having IRC for people to troll each other and vent may keep the site more cordial.

    So I'm ambivalent at best.

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  • (Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 11 2014, @10:16PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 11 2014, @10:16PM (#14912)

    Actually, it's soylent. Dogs don't know it's not bacon!

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday June 30 2014, @11:09PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday June 30 2014, @11:09PM (#62223)

      jONvZn nfakmckkmhqw [nfakmckkmhqw.com], [url=http://hztnakjqcleb.com/]hztnakjqcleb[/url], [link=http://oszfamgyrxdk.com/]oszfamgyrxdk[/link], http://pxidivanoyjl.com/ [pxidivanoyjl.com]

  • (Score: 2, Insightful) by goodie on Tuesday March 11 2014, @11:39PM

    by goodie (1877) on Tuesday March 11 2014, @11:39PM (#14942) Journal

    Haha, as a bacon/brussel sprout poster on the IRC channel, I understand your pov. TBH I think that once a lot of the stuff concerning the future of the site is settled, a lot of us will move out of the irc to post insightful things on the site instead. But for now, it's good way to get to know each other, offer help. I mean there are important things discussed there (and no, bacon is not one of them, despite its karma points, I agree with you).
    There has also not been too many stories posted recently. I don't know if it's a matter of lack of submissions or lack of acceptable submissions but to me that was one of the reasons I came down to the IRC channel, there just wasn't too much happening on SN (plus it went down at some point).

    Either way, if it doesn't cost anything to run it, why not? At the very least it'll be useful for the admin and overload meets.

    • (Score: 4, Interesting) by frojack on Tuesday March 11 2014, @11:50PM

      by frojack (1554) on Tuesday March 11 2014, @11:50PM (#14947) Journal

      Agreed, there is a cohesion aspect to IRC, (as long as it doesn't turn into a clique or cabal.)

      I think after the Drama ended, someone on IRC mentioned that what the site needs most is submissions, and today we see quite a few more, and the comments numbers are up as well.

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  • (Score: 4, Funny) by GungnirSniper on Wednesday March 12 2014, @12:24AM

    by GungnirSniper (1671) on Wednesday March 12 2014, @12:24AM (#14955) Journal

    Where else are we going to get updates on Poutine's negative karma score?

    • (Score: 2, Insightful) by gishzida on Wednesday March 12 2014, @01:21AM

      by gishzida (2870) on Wednesday March 12 2014, @01:21AM (#14969) Journal

      GungnirSniper++

      yes where else can old geezer like me go to make a fool of myself?

      poutine--

    • (Score: 2) by FatPhil on Wednesday March 12 2014, @08:59AM

      by FatPhil (863) <reversethis-{if.fdsa} {ta} {tnelyos-cp}> on Wednesday March 12 2014, @08:59AM (#15115) Homepage
      I'll take that as a suggestion for a new slashbox - one that shows the current top-5 and bottom-5 karma scores!
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  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by akinliat on Wednesday March 12 2014, @01:15AM

    by akinliat (1898) <reversethis-{moc.liamg} {ta} {tailnika}> on Wednesday March 12 2014, @01:15AM (#14967)

    Agreed. Unfortunately, there's yet another possible use for IRC -- coordinating site governance and management. The problem is, of course, that IRC is pretty much custom-designed for poor communication, as the current soap opera illustrates. So, not only are these issues being handled (somewhat) out of public view, but they're being handled badly and hurriedly, because IRC also generates a false sense of urgency.

    It's basically Twitter before there was Twitter.

    • (Score: 2) by FatPhil on Wednesday March 12 2014, @09:08AM

      by FatPhil (863) <reversethis-{if.fdsa} {ta} {tnelyos-cp}> on Wednesday March 12 2014, @09:08AM (#15119) Homepage
      > IRC is pretty much custom-designed for poor communication, as the current soap opera illustrates.

      This is *absolute* nonsense. The IRC was *totally invaluable* for the resolution of that problem. Without it, resolving the issue would have taken an order of magnitude longer. Those who could contribute something were glued to the screens, those who knew they had nothing to offer at that precise moment *shut up*. Suggestions came thick and fast; confirmations, rebuttals, and "interesting - I'll go grep" likewise. I know of no other medium which would have been so effective.

      > issues being handled (somewhat) out of public view

      If you think we should be discussing things like settings from files in /etc/ *in public*, and logs in /var/log/ then you're *mad*.

      -1 Talking out of arse for parent, please.
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  • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday March 12 2014, @03:47AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday March 12 2014, @03:47AM (#15014)

    The IRC channel seems to be a huge distraction that sucks attention away from well thought out posts on lots of stories, in exchange for a never ending stream of banalities about bacon.

    I have no idea what you're talking about. Bacon is never banalities.

    bacon++ # Team Bacon FTW!

    • (Score: 2) by xlefay on Wednesday March 12 2014, @06:00PM

      by xlefay (65) on Wednesday March 12 2014, @06:00PM (#15417) Journal

      Amen!

  • (Score: 4, Insightful) by TheRaven on Wednesday March 12 2014, @08:19AM

    by TheRaven (270) on Wednesday March 12 2014, @08:19AM (#15093) Journal
    Completely agree. There are lots of IRC channels that are for serious conversations or random wibble. The point of a site like this is to have focussed, (ideally) thoughtful, conversations about news topics. Get rid of the IRC channel, focus on the comments. I've been avoiding the other place to give here a chance, but I find that I only check here once or twice a day because there are so few comments and it's hard to have an interesting conversation by yourself (well, it isn't, but I don't feel the need to use the Internet to do so...).
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    • (Score: 2) by FatPhil on Wednesday March 12 2014, @11:05AM

      by FatPhil (863) <reversethis-{if.fdsa} {ta} {tnelyos-cp}> on Wednesday March 12 2014, @11:05AM (#15169) Homepage
      The non-staff side of the IRC system is certainly for random wibble.

      People like random wibble. People like random wibble with different groups of people. So having random wibble with soylentils should be available. I'd certainly like the idea of being able to chit-chat with some of the names on this list: http://slashdot.org/~fatphil/friends (when I have more time, which I don't presently).

      Oh, and FUCK BETA!

      (I was just repeatedly beta's as I tried to retrieve that list.)
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      • (Score: 2) by Grishnakh on Wednesday March 12 2014, @07:37PM

        by Grishnakh (2831) on Wednesday March 12 2014, @07:37PM (#15466)

        There's tons of IRC channels for random wibble. Why do you need a SoylentNews one?

        • (Score: 2) by FatPhil on Wednesday March 12 2014, @08:31PM

          by FatPhil (863) <reversethis-{if.fdsa} {ta} {tnelyos-cp}> on Wednesday March 12 2014, @08:31PM (#15510) Homepage
          Alternatively, next time you could read my post for comprehension before responding.
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      • (Score: 0) by crutchy on Thursday March 13 2014, @07:08AM

        by crutchy (179) on Thursday March 13 2014, @07:08AM (#15749) Homepage Journal

        irc is a community inside a community... of course it is a good thing, particularly since nobody is forced to use it.

        it's like an online water cooler where people can take a load off, where there is no awkward silence that can't be broken with a simple "poutine--", "!stats", "bacon++" or "s/foo/bar" (resulting in a certain character being thrown at you by one our much loved automated friends).

        anyone that doesn't "get" #soylent obviously needs to do a lot less thinking, cos trying to understand anything that goes on there would drive anyone batty.

        • (Score: 2) by xlefay on Thursday March 13 2014, @08:46PM

          by xlefay (65) on Thursday March 13 2014, @08:46PM (#16078) Journal

          * SedBot offers critchy a /

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 13 2014, @09:41AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 13 2014, @09:41AM (#15776)

      mod this up!