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posted by janrinok on Wednesday July 03 2024, @07:15PM   Printer-friendly
from the we've-been-doing-it-all-wrong? dept.

https://news.mit.edu/2023/surprising-finding-light-makes-water-evaporate-without-heat-1031
https://www.pnas.org/doi/full/10.1073/pnas.2312751120 Note that the paper is not paywalled.

A newly identified process could explain a variety of natural phenomena and enable new approaches to desalination.

Evaporation is happening all around us all the time, from the sweat cooling our bodies to the dew burning off in the morning sun. But science's understanding of this ubiquitous process may have been missing a piece all this time.

In recent years, some researchers have been puzzled upon finding that water in their experiments, which was held in a sponge-like material known as a hydrogel, was evaporating at a higher rate than could be explained by the amount of heat, or thermal energy, that the water was receiving. And the excess has been significant — a doubling, or even a tripling or more, of the theoretical maximum rate.

After carrying out a series of new experiments and simulations, and reexamining some of the results from various groups that claimed to have exceeded the thermal limit, a team of researchers at MIT has reached a startling conclusion: Under certain conditions, at the interface where water meets air, light can directly bring about evaporation without the need for heat, and it actually does so even more efficiently than heat. In these experiments, the water was held in a hydrogel material, but the researchers suggest that the phenomenon may occur under other conditions as well.

The findings are published this week in a paper in PNAS, by MIT postdoc Yaodong Tu, professor of mechanical engineering Gang Chen, and four others.

The phenomenon might play a role in the formation and evolution of fog and clouds, and thus would be important to incorporate into climate models to improve their accuracy, the researchers say. And it might play an important part in many industrial processes such as solar-powered desalination of water, perhaps enabling alternatives to the step of converting sunlight to heat first.

The new findings come as a surprise because water itself does not absorb light to any significant degree. That's why you can see clearly through many feet of clean water to the surface below. So, when the team initially began exploring the process of solar evaporation for desalination, they first put particles of a black, light-absorbing material in a container of water to help convert the sunlight to heat.

Additionally,

It's the most fundamental of processes — the evaporation of water from the surfaces of oceans and lakes, the burning off of fog in the morning sun, and the drying of briny ponds that leaves solid salt behind. Evaporation is all around us, and humans have been observing it and making use of it for as long as we have existed.

[...] In a series of painstakingly precise experiments, a team of researchers at MIT has demonstrated that heat isn't alone in causing water to evaporate. Light, striking the water's surface where air and water meet, can break water molecules away and float them into the air, causing evaporation in the absence of any source of heat.

The astonishing new discovery could have a wide range of significant implications. It could help explain mysterious measurements over the years of how sunlight affects clouds, and therefore affect calculations of the effects of climate change on cloud cover and precipitation. It could also lead to new ways of designing industrial processes such as solar-powered desalination or drying of materials.

https://news.mit.edu/2024/how-light-can-vaporize-water-without-heat-0423


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  • (Score: 2) by c0lo on Thursday July 04 2024, @05:05AM (1 child)

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    Picture me skeptical [unsw.edu.au]

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  • (Score: 3, Interesting) by sonamchauhan on Thursday July 04 2024, @10:18AM

    by sonamchauhan (6546) on Thursday July 04 2024, @10:18AM (#1363050)

    I read this before. But in this battle of the professors (one American, and one Australian), color me skeptical of the Australian professor's skepticism.

    As such, there is no special reason to be immediately sceptical of Pollack’s experimental findings about the behaviour of water in the “exclusion zone”. They are indeed interesting, and many aspects have been reproduced.

    But Pollack’s explanations for the behaviour have no basis.

    Follow the atoms
    If water somehow changed into a H₃O₂ form, simple arithmetic shows that turning two molecules of H₂O into one of H₃O₂ would leave an extra hydrogen atom floating around.

    We would expect to see this hydrogen released as H₂ gas.

    The Australian professor is mistaken that the "extra hydrogen atom" will form H₂ molecules. In fact Professor Pollack's work, found the "extra hydrogen atom" in fact exists as a charged proton (H+),. How can a proton combine with another proton to form an H₂ molecule?