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posted by janrinok on Friday February 20 2015, @01:18PM   Printer-friendly
from the and-perhaps-it-will-work dept.

Earlier this week, KDE developer David Edmundson described in his blog how KDE would be tied to logind and timedated but not systemd itself, at least according to his claim that "The init system is one part of systemd that doesn't affect us at all, and any other could be used.".

Later, in the blog comments, he clarifies that starting with plasma 5.5, in 6 months, they'll drop "legacy" support, according to a decision taken in the plasma sprint.

Even if one can only guess why there is no formal announcement, it seems clear - unless somehow there is a shim or emulator, not only for logind but also for timedated, in 6 months KDE will be unusable unless you are running systemd. And the blog entry makes it clear that the plan is to remove more and more functionality from KDE and use systemd instead.

 
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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday February 20 2015, @02:51PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday February 20 2015, @02:51PM (#147413)

    Now even though we are suppose to be getting good news it's not tied to systemd, you sure can feel the pressure it exerts on everything around it.

    "One Ring to rule them all, One Ring to find them, One Ring to bring them all and in the darkness bind them."

    Its back to the C64 for me.

  • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Friday February 20 2015, @03:52PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday February 20 2015, @03:52PM (#147447)

    The original version. [soylentnews.org] Of course Tolkien could not understand it back then, so he changed it to the ring version. ;-)

  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by The Archon V2.0 on Friday February 20 2015, @04:30PM

    by The Archon V2.0 (3887) on Friday February 20 2015, @04:30PM (#147462)

    > Its back to the C64 for me.

    Yeah, the going gets tough and you cowards run right back to a Microsoft OS.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday February 20 2015, @08:27PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday February 20 2015, @08:27PM (#147564)

      Ha! Well played... I loved (LOVED!) my Commodore gear and had nearly forgotten that it was, in fact, running a Microsoft OS. Still, my c64 was utterly awesome and now I'm off to eBay for a trip down memory lane... :-)

      • (Score: 2) by The Archon V2.0 on Friday February 20 2015, @09:07PM

        by The Archon V2.0 (3887) on Friday February 20 2015, @09:07PM (#147586)

        Yeah, the 64 was awesome. Only reason I knew it was running Microsoft BASIC was because I saw the copyright for BASIC 7.0 on a C128 start screen many years later, thanks to emulation.

    • (Score: 2) by janrinok on Friday February 20 2015, @08:37PM

      by janrinok (52) Subscriber Badge on Friday February 20 2015, @08:37PM (#147569) Journal

      Er - the C64 being referred to is, I believe, the Commodore 64 [oldcomputers.net] from Commodore Int'l Ltd. How you got modded as 'Insightful' for mentioning Microsoft is a mystery to me.

      Unless I've just missed a 'whooshing' sound - but then you would have to explain that to me in more detail which means it wasn't as funny as perhaps you intended?

      • (Score: 2) by janrinok on Friday February 20 2015, @08:39PM

        by janrinok (52) Subscriber Badge on Friday February 20 2015, @08:39PM (#147571) Journal
        Well I stand corrected and have learned from the post currently above mine. A Microsoft OS. Apologies for my error.
        • (Score: 2) by The Archon V2.0 on Friday February 20 2015, @09:09PM

          by The Archon V2.0 (3887) on Friday February 20 2015, @09:09PM (#147587)

          It's cool. There's no major sign BASIC 2.0 is Microsoft, it's something I think most of us learned long after the fact.

          But then, who used BASIC after the learning stage for anything but simple programs and the LOAD command?

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday February 20 2015, @09:30PM

            by Anonymous Coward on Friday February 20 2015, @09:30PM (#147600)

            janrinok here:

            My search of Wikipedia suggests that the OS was called GEOS (which is what I remember in the UK C64) and was written by Berkeley Softworks (later GeoWorks). In fact, I can find no mention of an MS OS for the C64. The basic I remember as GeoBasic, which also ties in with Wikipedia.

            Myself, I was a Nascom 1 and 2 user, and subsequently a Galaxy user.

            • (Score: 2) by Arik on Friday February 20 2015, @09:39PM

              by Arik (4543) on Friday February 20 2015, @09:39PM (#147603) Journal
              "My search of Wikipedia suggests that the OS was called GEOS (which is what I remember in the UK C64) and was written by Berkeley Softworks (later GeoWorks). In fact, I can find no mention of an MS OS for the C64. The basic I remember as GeoBasic, which also ties in with Wikipedia."

              GEOS was an option you could add later. The actual built in OS on the 64 was KERNAL, and IIRC it was developed in-house and went back to the PET days at least. The *shell* was Commodore BASIC, also developed in-house back at least to the PET, but I believe it was a licensed fork from MS BASIC at some point.
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            • (Score: 2) by The Archon V2.0 on Friday February 20 2015, @09:40PM

              by The Archon V2.0 (3887) on Friday February 20 2015, @09:40PM (#147604)

              The window-icon-mouse-pointer OS in the C64 was GEOS.

              This part, that comes with every C64 and starts when the computer does (if you don't have a cartridge plugged in), is a Microsoft OS: http://www.zweigrafiker.com/c64/assets/images/c64.gif [zweigrafiker.com]

              As evidenced by: http://www.commodore.ca/products/128/c128_basic_7_screen_shot.gif [commodore.ca]

              And: http://www.pagetable.com/?p=43 [pagetable.com]