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Earlier this week, KDE developer David Edmundson described in his blog how KDE would be tied to logind and timedated but not systemd itself, at least according to his claim that "The init system is one part of systemd that doesn't affect us at all, and any other could be used.".
Later, in the blog comments, he clarifies that starting with plasma 5.5, in 6 months, they'll drop "legacy" support, according to a decision taken in the plasma sprint.
Even if one can only guess why there is no formal announcement, it seems clear - unless somehow there is a shim or emulator, not only for logind but also for timedated, in 6 months KDE will be unusable unless you are running systemd. And the blog entry makes it clear that the plan is to remove more and more functionality from KDE and use systemd instead.
(Score: 2) by choose another one on Friday February 20 2015, @08:38PM
Shim is a misnomer. One of the aims of modular development (aka the Unix way) is to enable the use of alternative implementations of some components - and that is exactly what these "shims" are, alternative implementations of systemd components without the coupling to the rest of systemd.
Key thing of course is that someone has to maintain the shims, but only a small fraction of the effort that goes into complaining about systemd would be required for that...
(Score: 2) by arashi no garou on Friday February 20 2015, @08:52PM
Key thing of course is that someone has to maintain the shims
That is exactly my point. What happens when the shim maintainer walks away because either she accepts systemd or moves on to, say, BSD? A shim is a band-aid on a bleeding gash.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday February 22 2015, @06:53PM
I saw that video and felt the presenter was making some excellent points. Poetterng's behavior was surprising, childish and inexcusable. Systemd is being developed by a spoiled brat and while there are many other good reasons to avoid it, that fact alone is enough to turn many away.