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posted by janrinok on Friday February 20 2015, @01:18PM   Printer-friendly
from the and-perhaps-it-will-work dept.

Earlier this week, KDE developer David Edmundson described in his blog how KDE would be tied to logind and timedated but not systemd itself, at least according to his claim that "The init system is one part of systemd that doesn't affect us at all, and any other could be used.".

Later, in the blog comments, he clarifies that starting with plasma 5.5, in 6 months, they'll drop "legacy" support, according to a decision taken in the plasma sprint.

Even if one can only guess why there is no formal announcement, it seems clear - unless somehow there is a shim or emulator, not only for logind but also for timedated, in 6 months KDE will be unusable unless you are running systemd. And the blog entry makes it clear that the plan is to remove more and more functionality from KDE and use systemd instead.

 
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  • (Score: 2) by janrinok on Friday February 20 2015, @08:39PM

    by janrinok (52) Subscriber Badge on Friday February 20 2015, @08:39PM (#147571) Journal
    Well I stand corrected and have learned from the post currently above mine. A Microsoft OS. Apologies for my error.
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  • (Score: 2) by The Archon V2.0 on Friday February 20 2015, @09:09PM

    by The Archon V2.0 (3887) on Friday February 20 2015, @09:09PM (#147587)

    It's cool. There's no major sign BASIC 2.0 is Microsoft, it's something I think most of us learned long after the fact.

    But then, who used BASIC after the learning stage for anything but simple programs and the LOAD command?

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday February 20 2015, @09:30PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday February 20 2015, @09:30PM (#147600)

      janrinok here:

      My search of Wikipedia suggests that the OS was called GEOS (which is what I remember in the UK C64) and was written by Berkeley Softworks (later GeoWorks). In fact, I can find no mention of an MS OS for the C64. The basic I remember as GeoBasic, which also ties in with Wikipedia.

      Myself, I was a Nascom 1 and 2 user, and subsequently a Galaxy user.

      • (Score: 2) by Arik on Friday February 20 2015, @09:39PM

        by Arik (4543) on Friday February 20 2015, @09:39PM (#147603) Journal
        "My search of Wikipedia suggests that the OS was called GEOS (which is what I remember in the UK C64) and was written by Berkeley Softworks (later GeoWorks). In fact, I can find no mention of an MS OS for the C64. The basic I remember as GeoBasic, which also ties in with Wikipedia."

        GEOS was an option you could add later. The actual built in OS on the 64 was KERNAL, and IIRC it was developed in-house and went back to the PET days at least. The *shell* was Commodore BASIC, also developed in-house back at least to the PET, but I believe it was a licensed fork from MS BASIC at some point.
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      • (Score: 2) by The Archon V2.0 on Friday February 20 2015, @09:40PM

        by The Archon V2.0 (3887) on Friday February 20 2015, @09:40PM (#147604)

        The window-icon-mouse-pointer OS in the C64 was GEOS.

        This part, that comes with every C64 and starts when the computer does (if you don't have a cartridge plugged in), is a Microsoft OS: http://www.zweigrafiker.com/c64/assets/images/c64.gif [zweigrafiker.com]

        As evidenced by: http://www.commodore.ca/products/128/c128_basic_7_screen_shot.gif [commodore.ca]

        And: http://www.pagetable.com/?p=43 [pagetable.com]