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posted by janrinok on Friday February 20 2015, @01:18PM   Printer-friendly
from the and-perhaps-it-will-work dept.

Earlier this week, KDE developer David Edmundson described in his blog how KDE would be tied to logind and timedated but not systemd itself, at least according to his claim that "The init system is one part of systemd that doesn't affect us at all, and any other could be used.".

Later, in the blog comments, he clarifies that starting with plasma 5.5, in 6 months, they'll drop "legacy" support, according to a decision taken in the plasma sprint.

Even if one can only guess why there is no formal announcement, it seems clear - unless somehow there is a shim or emulator, not only for logind but also for timedated, in 6 months KDE will be unusable unless you are running systemd. And the blog entry makes it clear that the plan is to remove more and more functionality from KDE and use systemd instead.

 
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  • (Score: 3, Interesting) by arashi no garou on Friday February 20 2015, @09:10PM

    by arashi no garou (2796) on Friday February 20 2015, @09:10PM (#147589)

    No hatred for anyone on my part, I just don't care for politics in my software. Back when Pat Volkerding cut Gnome out of Slackware, he did so for very technically valid reasons. Even so, Slackware lost a lot of users over it, and endured a bit of hate. I stopped using Slackware for a while not because Gnome was cut (I was using Fluxbox at the time), not because I suddenly hated Pat, but because I got sick of all the fighting and bullshit surrounding it. I figured it was the right time to explore other distros for mainstream use, and I'm glad I did. I discovered Arch Linux (which, again, I dropped later on when there was a big political row in the community), and explored tons of distros I wouldn't have bothered with if I had stayed for the drama. I eventually settled back into Slackware once everyone stopped caring about the Gnome debacle (probably largely due to how much Gnome 3 sucked and how difficult it was to compile and package - Pat's original argument, finally validated by the masses).

    Now we have Debian making the decision to adopt systemd, a project fraught with controversy and political shenanigans. Again, people are leaving Debian in droves (both users and devs) over something political. Sound familiar? It does to me, and I am personally better off without it. But I won't tell other people "systemd is bad m'kay" because it may not be bad for them. I've only ever given reasons it's bad for me.

    Chosen on the technical merits by the person in charge of the decision doesn't exactly scream "shoved" or "down our throats."

    That's just it: It was chosen by "the person", not "the people". "The person" drew a line and ignored dissent from anyone who tried to challenge that line. At least, that's what I've read; if it went down differently than it was reported, please enlighten me.

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