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posted by janrinok on Friday February 20 2015, @01:18PM   Printer-friendly
from the and-perhaps-it-will-work dept.

Earlier this week, KDE developer David Edmundson described in his blog how KDE would be tied to logind and timedated but not systemd itself, at least according to his claim that "The init system is one part of systemd that doesn't affect us at all, and any other could be used.".

Later, in the blog comments, he clarifies that starting with plasma 5.5, in 6 months, they'll drop "legacy" support, according to a decision taken in the plasma sprint.

Even if one can only guess why there is no formal announcement, it seems clear - unless somehow there is a shim or emulator, not only for logind but also for timedated, in 6 months KDE will be unusable unless you are running systemd. And the blog entry makes it clear that the plan is to remove more and more functionality from KDE and use systemd instead.

 
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  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by frojack on Friday February 20 2015, @09:46PM

    by frojack (1554) on Friday February 20 2015, @09:46PM (#147607) Journal

    assuming a shim layer is not being implemented that will convert time and date API calls

    I really can't understand why that approach isn't being taken.
    Write it once, and done, no combing through your code to change every instance of an ever increasing number of functions that are handled by multiple different init systems.

    This has been the prevailing method of dealing with changes in underlying structures, libraries, compilers, etc since before the systemd tyrants were born, since before linux was born. These shims are tiny, usually argument re-arranging, a jmp and a ret, and very little else. Only occasionally is any significant code or data structures needed.

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday February 22 2015, @08:53AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday February 22 2015, @08:53AM (#148041)

    How deep does the rabbit hole go? Will we end up implementing systemd to avoid using systemd?