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KDE Will Depend on 'logind' and 'timedated' in 6 Months

posted by janrinok on Friday February 20 2015, @01:18PM   Printer-friendly
from the and-perhaps-it-will-work dept.

jbernardo writes:

Earlier this week, KDE developer David Edmundson described in his blog how KDE would be tied to logind and timedated but not systemd itself, at least according to his claim that "The init system is one part of systemd that doesn't affect us at all, and any other could be used.".

Later, in the blog comments, he clarifies that starting with plasma 5.5, in 6 months, they'll drop "legacy" support, according to a decision taken in the plasma sprint.

Even if one can only guess why there is no formal announcement, it seems clear - unless somehow there is a shim or emulator, not only for logind but also for timedated, in 6 months KDE will be unusable unless you are running systemd. And the blog entry makes it clear that the plan is to remove more and more functionality from KDE and use systemd instead.

 
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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday February 20 2015, @09:50PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday February 20 2015, @09:50PM (#147610)

    From the blog:

    Realistically we're talking about the snapshot of the login1/timedate1 specs as of now. I follow what happens in that BSD shim. We tend to have a good relationship with most packagers (certainly I do with one BSD guy) if he tells us something is broken, we'll fix it in the final release.

    We had a discussion at the Plasma sprint now, we'll be dropping legacy support in 5.5; over 6 months from now. We're trying hard to not screw any hard working distros over.

    I can't promise we won't break it accidentally, we do it with the build system. I can say we won't do it deliberately; and certainly this should be done in a way that won't affect users.

    However, if a distro doesn't make any effort then they will get left behind with an old Plasma. I don't want to let any one group ruin the experience of anyone else.

  • (Score: 2) by fnj on Sunday February 22 2015, @12:35AM

    by fnj (1654) on Sunday February 22 2015, @12:35AM (#147935)

    I am a hapless Arch user who recently got shafted by updates bringing in horrible KF5 versions of Kate and Konsole[*]. I am so pissed right now, all the old rage at abandoning 3 in favor of a ghastly immature 4 is coming back.

    All my painstaking customizations were suddenly gone and the beautiful KDE4 apps turned into ugly KF5 versions. Kate became almost unusable, and Konsole became completely unusable.

    I admit I, in a sense, was "asking for it" by using Arch, but at this point I just want to drive a stake through KDE.