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KDE Will Depend on 'logind' and 'timedated' in 6 Months

posted by janrinok on Friday February 20 2015, @01:18PM   Printer-friendly
from the and-perhaps-it-will-work dept.

jbernardo writes:

Earlier this week, KDE developer David Edmundson described in his blog how KDE would be tied to logind and timedated but not systemd itself, at least according to his claim that "The init system is one part of systemd that doesn't affect us at all, and any other could be used.".

Later, in the blog comments, he clarifies that starting with plasma 5.5, in 6 months, they'll drop "legacy" support, according to a decision taken in the plasma sprint.

Even if one can only guess why there is no formal announcement, it seems clear - unless somehow there is a shim or emulator, not only for logind but also for timedated, in 6 months KDE will be unusable unless you are running systemd. And the blog entry makes it clear that the plan is to remove more and more functionality from KDE and use systemd instead.

 
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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday February 20 2015, @10:50PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday February 20 2015, @10:50PM (#147638)

    Actually, it is BSD that has already one. BSD gained many former Linux users who cares about init system flexibility, the bazaar model, and avoiding dependency hell. These are people who are more likely to contribute back to the distribution and upstream projects, unlike many of the people who stayed with systemd distributions. With BSD's recent gain in users with software development talent, they have more capability than ever to run KDE there, a KDE like desktop environment, Lumina, or the Trinity Desktop Environment. systemd has not won anything of value. systemd has actually lost something of value: They have chased off development talent to other software distributions and sysytemd is building a monstrosity that will be difficult for future development talent to maintain. This will not be realized now, but years from now, it will become more evident.

    As this is a win for BSD, this is also a win for permissive free software as opposed to copyleft software. Copyleft is better at protecting the freedom of the user, as opposed to the software publisher.

    If you want to stick with Linux and KDE, I suggest Devuan and the Trinity Desktop Environment.