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posted by janrinok on Friday February 20 2015, @01:18PM   Printer-friendly
from the and-perhaps-it-will-work dept.

Earlier this week, KDE developer David Edmundson described in his blog how KDE would be tied to logind and timedated but not systemd itself, at least according to his claim that "The init system is one part of systemd that doesn't affect us at all, and any other could be used.".

Later, in the blog comments, he clarifies that starting with plasma 5.5, in 6 months, they'll drop "legacy" support, according to a decision taken in the plasma sprint.

Even if one can only guess why there is no formal announcement, it seems clear - unless somehow there is a shim or emulator, not only for logind but also for timedated, in 6 months KDE will be unusable unless you are running systemd. And the blog entry makes it clear that the plan is to remove more and more functionality from KDE and use systemd instead.

 
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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday February 22 2015, @09:29AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday February 22 2015, @09:29AM (#148046)

    It boils down to having a "common" way to delegate minimal and temporary system changing rights, so that the user can hook their laptop up to a new wlan, or mount that thumb drive with the photos of dear aunt Tillie, via a GUI.

    But more and more it seems like what is driving it all is a desire to placate the MIC.

    Multi-seat for instance seems to be about being able to airlift one computer and a bunch of screens and keyboards into the field, yet make sure that only the spooks can read how quickly the war is going to the dogs (the "lesson" from Vietnam has not been to avoid dirty wars, but to control the information flow from the warzone).

    Containerization is being pushed by systemd and Gnome as a security thing. And Fedora, the place where systemd etc is germinating, was a early adopter of SELinux.

    A bunch of other stuff seems to be treating users like sheep in need of protection from themselves, or chasing theoretical corner cases.

    Perfect is very much the enemy of good in the end.