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It has been claimed that fish farming is a sustainable source of food that will help us feed the growing global human population while protecting wild fish populations – but this isn’t true.
“Fish farming is not a substitute for catching wild fish out of the ocean,” says Matthew Hayek at New York University. “In fact, it relies on catching wild fish out of the ocean.”
Hayek and his colleagues have shown that the amount of wild fish killed in order to feed farmed fish is between 27 and 307 per cent higher than previous estimates.
Farmed carnivorous fish eat multiple times more weight in wild fish caught from the ocean than is obtained by farming them, says Hayek. For instance, producing a kilogram of salmon may require 4 or 5 kilograms of wild fish.
(Score: 5, Insightful) by VLM on Monday October 21 2024, @02:17PM (10 children)
What should they do with the byproducts? Canning and processing produces a lot of fishmeal and "something" has to eat that if not humans (pink slime made of fish?)
catfish and tilapia are omnivores and I would assume fishmeal is more expensive than agricultural waste so they're at least often fed on plant waste.
A lot of articles like this support stealth authoritarianism where if everyone can't do something exactly identical to everyone else then its morally wrong. I really don't see any problem with aquaculture next door to a canning factory. That doesn't mean all aquaculture can only be done by feeding fish to fish or that all aquaculture is bad. Or perhaps its just bad AI generation by the "journalist".
(Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 21 2024, @02:28PM (1 child)
This could all be solved with a 24hr purge to get rid of the bad things and protect good things. Duh.
(Score: 2) by VLM on Monday October 21 2024, @03:26PM
Yeah I hear what you're saying, if the journalist looks at everything thru the lens of "Is it Kosher or not?" then everything that's permissible is not merely permitted but universally religiously required plus non-participants have to publicly display their affirmation of it, vs if its not permissible then its a sin for anyone to participate or even a sin not to denigrate other participants in public as an act of prayer.
So aquaculture is either Kosher and we have to love it, or it is not Kosher and we have to hate it, and there's no in-between with "those people"
Personally I think every large ag facility and every commercial cannery should have an attached aquaculture farm. Best way to dispose of byproducts is to grow more food with them. Maybe if they're very far inland or in a desert they should turn the byproducts into fertilizer for farmers on an individual case basis.
It would seem very foolish to ferment it until there's no oxygen demand then pump it into the overloaded sewers. Its not like banning aquaculture because some journalist says its not Kosher will magically make people stop agriculture and fish canning LOL, there's going to be byproducts regardless, may as well made food from them.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by JoeMerchant on Monday October 21 2024, @02:47PM (7 children)
My problem with tilapia is that it tastes like the mud and fish poop it's grown in.
These things are "distasteful" for very good evolutionary reasons.
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(Score: 2) by VLM on Monday October 21 2024, @02:58PM (6 children)
They're good for super spicy fish taco type stuff where the fish is more of a filler than a flavor.
Or feed them to cats.
Or, best idea yet, if people like eating carnivorous fish, feed the carnivore fish the tilapia fish and humans eat the real fish.
Chickens eat worse stuff than tilapia and they're edible so maybe feed those fish to chickens as a bulk protein source then eat the eggs/chickens. The agwaste to tilapia to chicken to egg pipeline.
(Score: 5, Insightful) by JoeMerchant on Monday October 21 2024, @03:04PM (5 children)
>Chickens eat worse stuff than tilapia and they're edible
That's getting to be really debatable these days. Last chicken dish I had in a restaurant was made with such grotesquely hormone pumped fast-grown never exercised poultry I was sickened by the soft wateryness of the meat.
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(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 22 2024, @04:36PM (1 child)
That's why the free market invented sugary sticky meat glaze. Problem solved.
(Score: 2) by JoeMerchant on Wednesday October 23 2024, @12:28PM
This particular dish was indeed glazed with sugar sauce, braized to a delightfully crispy crust. Still couldn't hide the flabby, feeble malaise of the animal being served...
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(Score: 2) by Reziac on Wednesday October 23 2024, @07:20AM (2 children)
That sounds like the reconstituted stuff (the chicken equivalent of "pink slime") that goes into today's chicken nuggets. Sort of like eating a sponge that's gone to rot.
And there is no Alkibiades to come back and save us from ourselves.
(Score: 3, Informative) by JoeMerchant on Wednesday October 23 2024, @12:30PM (1 child)
Except this was wings, big flabby flesh on weak bones. It wouldn't take much processing to turn it to pink goo. It did start to make a convincing argument for artificial meat, artificial meat could easily be made more appealing.
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(Score: 2) by Reziac on Wednesday October 23 2024, @04:09PM
Yuck. Sounds almost putrified.
I wonder if it might be that because modern meat chickens grow a lot faster, they're harvested younger, so it's still juvenile flesh, which can be ... call it overly tender, to the point of being like jello.
Know what medium today's experiments in artificial meat are grown in? Cow serum. So yummy! :Q
And there is no Alkibiades to come back and save us from ourselves.