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posted by mrpg on Monday October 21 2024, @04:32PM   Printer-friendly
from the it-came-back dept.

The Terminator: How James Cameron's 'science-fiction slasher film' predicted AI fears, 40 years ago

[...] With its killer robots and its rogue AI system, Skynet, The Terminator has become synonymous with the spectre of a machine intelligence that turns against its human creators. Picture editors routinely illustrate articles about AI with the chrome death's head of the film's T-800 "hunter-killer" robot. The roboticist Ronald Arkin used clips from the film in a cautionary 2013 talk called How NOT to build a Terminator.

[...] The layperson is likely to imagine unaligned AI as rebellious and malevolent. But the likes of Nick Bostrom insist that the real danger is from careless programming. Think of the sorcerer's broom in Disney's Fantasia: a device that obediently follows its instructions to ruinous extremes. The second type of AI is not human enough it lacks common sense and moral judgement. The first is too human - selfish, resentful, power-hungry. Both could in theory be genocidal.

The Terminator therefore both helps and hinders our understanding of AI: what it means for a machine to "think", and how it could go horrifically wrong. Many AI researchers resent the Terminator obsession altogether for exaggerating the existential risk of AI at the expense of more immediate dangers such as mass unemployment, disinformation and autonomous weapons. "First, it makes us worry about things that we probably don't need to fret about," writes Michael Woolridge. "But secondly, it draws attention away from those issues raised by AI that we should be concerned about."


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  • (Score: 5, Insightful) by Frosty Piss on Monday October 21 2024, @05:08PM (6 children)

    by Frosty Piss (4971) on Monday October 21 2024, @05:08PM (#1377953)

    What a glorious AI future you imagine. Yet the highest probability is that at a certain point - perhaps it has already reached that point - AI development will be focused exclusively on the gigantic pools of pork being dished out to the Defense Conglomerates, both here in the US and around the world. Self-driving vehicles and all the other AI decision making technology will without question be leveraged for autonomous war machines. They are already experimenting with those robotic pooches carrying weapons, how about one that doesn't need a human to make "kill" decisions? You can bet DARPA is all over this and the world's superpowers are ready and willing to dish out the cash.

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  • (Score: 1, Offtopic) by DannyB on Monday October 21 2024, @05:15PM

    by DannyB (5839) Subscriber Badge on Monday October 21 2024, @05:15PM (#1377955) Journal

    <no-sarcasm>
    AI is a tool. Like all tools, it can be used for good or evil. A crowbar can be used to break into someone's house.

    Just as a computer can be used as a weapon. (just ask anyone who has been hit on the head with a laptop)
    </no-sarcasm>

    Why is there war?
    Why is there disease?
    Why is there evil?
    Why do people put pineapple on pizza?

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    The Centauri traded Earth jump gate technology in exchange for our superior hair mousse formulas.
  • (Score: 1) by khallow on Monday October 21 2024, @06:29PM (2 children)

    by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Monday October 21 2024, @06:29PM (#1377971) Journal

    Yet the highest probability is that at a certain point - perhaps it has already reached that point - AI development will be focused exclusively on the gigantic pools of pork being dished out to the Defense Conglomerates, both here in the US and around the world.

    Consider that the current LLM fad is a big data thing - it works well only with a large database of appropriate human communication or generated knowledge. The demand for that are highly centralized databases like government ones.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 21 2024, @07:44PM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 21 2024, @07:44PM (#1377985)

      "highly centralized databases like government ones"

      Google
      Microsoft
      Amazon
      The Internet Archive

      and whoever ends up paying them to acquire copies of what they have

      • (Score: 1) by khallow on Monday October 21 2024, @07:59PM

        by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Monday October 21 2024, @07:59PM (#1377993) Journal
        NSA being an obvious example of what I speak of.
  • (Score: 1, Flamebait) by DannyB on Monday October 21 2024, @07:53PM

    by DannyB (5839) Subscriber Badge on Monday October 21 2024, @07:53PM (#1377991) Journal

    What a glorious AI future you imagine. Yet the highest probability is that at a certain point - perhaps it has already reached that point - AI development will be focused exclusively on the gigantic pools of pork being dished out to the Defense Conglomerates

    I get that.

    However war defense is not the only user of AI technology.

    There are other uses which will get their own independent development efforts. Those are the ones that might produce technology which benefits humanity. Since what "conscious" and "thinking" AI would or could do is speculative, at best, I think my "glorious AI future" that I imagine is not so far fetched.

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    The Centauri traded Earth jump gate technology in exchange for our superior hair mousse formulas.
  • (Score: 5, Insightful) by Samantha Wright on Monday October 21 2024, @08:47PM

    by Samantha Wright (4062) on Monday October 21 2024, @08:47PM (#1378006)

    The belief that the nefariousness of the military-intelligence-industrial complex is an inevitable, immovable, all-consuming institution is a form of coping strategy that ensures society does not challenge or question the dominance of said complex. Mass protests calling for the abolition or reform of corrupt organizations have a pretty good track record in pluralistic countries.

    If you don't want killer robots, act like it, and encourage others to do the same. Even if you end up with a bullet in your head, you'll at least be a martyr instead of a moaner. The apathetic shall not inherit the earth.