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posted by janrinok on Sunday November 17 2024, @05:32AM   Printer-friendly

From the horse's own mouth:

The Guardian has announced it will no longer post content on Elon Musk's social media platform, X, from its official accounts.

In an announcement to readers, the news organisation said it considered the benefits of being on the platform formerly called Twitter were now outweighed by the negatives, citing the "often disturbing content" found on it.

"We wanted to let readers know that we will no longer post on any official Guardian editorial accounts on the social media site X," the Guardian said.
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Responding to the announcement, Musk posted on X that the Guardian was "irrelevant" and a "laboriously vile propaganda machine".

Last year National Public Radio (NPR), the non-profit US media organisation, stopped posting on X after the social media platform labelled it as "state-affiliated media". PBS, a US public TV broadcaster, suspended its posts for the same reason.

This month the Berlin film festival said it was quitting X, without citing an official reason, and last month the North Wales police force said it had stopped using X because it was "no longer consistent with our values".

In August the Royal National orthopaedic hospital said it was leaving X, citing an "increased volume of hate speech and abusive commentary" on the platform.


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  • (Score: 2) by janrinok on Monday November 18 2024, @05:53PM (7 children)

    by janrinok (52) Subscriber Badge on Monday November 18 2024, @05:53PM (#1382325) Journal

    If your interpretation is correct it would mean that if someone sent a political diatribe to a site that is dedicated to exchanging meal recipes then the site would 1. have to accept it, and 2. not be able to delete such material from their site. It is patently absurd, as is your interpretation.

    Lots of sites are selective about the material that they host that is provided by someone else. They are NOT responsible for it and can, if they choose, refuse to accept it and may delete it as being irrelevant to their site.

    We have been granted 501c(3) status based on there being a public good in discussing items related to STEM, no matter how loose that connection might be. If we suddenly change and start publishing material on unrelated topics then that status could well be withdrawn.

    No site is compelled to host material that they do not wish to host. That does not affect the protection of Section230. We ascertained this very early on in our site's history from sources competent in this matter.

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  • (Score: 0, Redundant) by khallow on Monday November 18 2024, @08:48PM (6 children)

    by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Monday November 18 2024, @08:48PM (#1382358) Journal

    If your interpretation is correct it would mean that if someone sent a political diatribe to a site that is dedicated to exchanging meal recipes

    First, we've already abandoned the premise that sites can censor on any basis and still be in compliance with Section 230. This would fully fall under good faith restriction of stuff that is objectionable because it is off topic.

    A better example would be your meal recipe site hired another company to help keep it clean of that list of undesirable stuff, and then you find that they're deliberately censoring posts from anyone who talks about low carb recipes for political reasons.

    We have been granted 501c(3) status based on there being a public good in discussing items related to STEM, no matter how loose that connection might be. If we suddenly change and start publishing material on unrelated topics then that status could well be withdrawn.

    As long as SN select stories that are mostly STEM related, they're good, right?

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 18 2024, @09:02PM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 18 2024, @09:02PM (#1382363)
      • (Score: 1) by khallow on Monday November 18 2024, @09:26PM

        by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Monday November 18 2024, @09:26PM (#1382371) Journal
        I already quoted the relevant parts of Section 230. Please come up with a real argument.
    • (Score: 3, Informative) by janrinok on Monday November 18 2024, @09:15PM (1 child)

      by janrinok (52) Subscriber Badge on Monday November 18 2024, @09:15PM (#1382367) Journal

      First, we've already abandoned the premise that sites can censor on any basis and still be in compliance with Section 230

      No we haven't - you have, but you are wrong.

      This would fully fall under good faith restriction of stuff that is objectionable because it is off topic.

      So 'objectionable' could be anything we want it to be, which is in complete contradiction to the first of your statements that I have quoted. Your Alice-in-Wonderland interpretation of meaning whatever you want it to mean has not been tested in court.

      In fact, everything you are claiming is actually explained in the original link passed to you in " rel="url2html-130627">https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=62663&commentsort=0&mode=threadtng&threshold=-1&page=1&cid=1382245#commentwrap

      You cannot have read it otherwise you would not be spouting the rubbish that you are.

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      • (Score: 0, Troll) by khallow on Monday November 18 2024, @09:36PM

        by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Monday November 18 2024, @09:36PM (#1382372) Journal

        So 'objectionable' could be anything we want it to be, which is in complete contradiction to the first of your statements that I have quoted.

        Who is "we"? Newsguard is neither the platform provider or user. And the rest of your post, I already addressed [soylentnews.org]. The link in question doesn't address censorship done in bad faith even though the author asserts otherwise.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 19 2024, @12:29AM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 19 2024, @12:29AM (#1382402)

      First, we've already abandoned the premise that sites can censor on any basis and still be in compliance with Section 230. This would fully fall under good faith restriction of stuff that is objectionable because it is off topic.

      You abandoned it. That doesn't make it so, khasslltakerow.

      • (Score: 1) by khallow on Tuesday November 19 2024, @12:54PM

        by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday November 19 2024, @12:54PM (#1382459) Journal

        You abandoned it. That doesn't make it so, khasslltakerow.

        I hope you realize that was really dumb.