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posted by janrinok on Friday February 27 2015, @01:18PM   Printer-friendly
from the we-knew-we-were-right dept.

Today we stand proud, fellow Soylentils. Two stories have been received to explain why:

Slashdot.org switches accounts to Classic-like interface

It now appears that Slashdot has now completely changed its interface to the new "beta" interface - which looks almost the same as the "old" interface. Users can no longer view the non-beta classic site, which is being reported by users all around the site.

The only official news on the matter is in the form of a journal entry.

Does this mean it's time to go after our original mission and let them know we're here?

"Beta" Delenda est!

Remember Slashdot? Remember Beta? This blog post might be tagged "sudden outbreak of common sense," if it wasn't well over a year too late:

...effective today, we've jettisoned the Slashdot Beta platform out the side portal. [...] After heavily experimenting on the Beta platform and splitting traffic between Classic and Beta, we've made some decisions about which platform changes ultimately make sense: starting today, we're unifying users back on our Classic platform.

A raft of minor changes came along with this announcement. Still no comment, though, on whether those users are a "community" or an "audience."

And frankly, that's why soylentnews is better.

 
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  • (Score: 2) by Reziac on Saturday February 28 2015, @02:35PM

    by Reziac (2489) on Saturday February 28 2015, @02:35PM (#151055) Homepage

    Under beta and with JS off, I had to turn CSS off entirely (Prefbar has a setting for that) to be able to read the durn thing, and all I could say about it is... well, at least that degraded into something like Mosaic 0.99 would display. I wasn't real impressed with JS active, either.

    [checks SN without CSS]

    Hey! SN degrades super-gracefully. About all that really changes are fonts and centering. Good job!

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  • (Score: 2) by NCommander on Saturday March 14 2015, @12:24AM

    by NCommander (2) Subscriber Badge <michael@casadevall.pro> on Saturday March 14 2015, @12:24AM (#157590) Homepage Journal

    Bit late to the party, but it is possible to browse and post with Mosiac (esp if you have a version that understands PNG files). Can't log in since most versions of Mosiac don't understand cookies though ...

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    • (Score: 2) by Reziac on Saturday March 14 2015, @01:15AM

      by Reziac (2489) on Saturday March 14 2015, @01:15AM (#157608) Homepage

      http://sillydog.org/narchive/full123.php [sillydog.org]
      http://sillydog.org/narchive/fulldata.html#retro [sillydog.org]
      Tho I can't for the life of me see a download link for it.

      I've used Mosaic 0.9 myself, used to use it as my acid test for website readability. Another good one for testing is Netscape 3.04 -- if the page looks okay and doesn't trigger the old old (and still with us) "too many elements causes a runaway resource leak" bug, then you're golden.

      And..... [goes off, tests SN in NS3.04 which I happen to have handy... was only about 3 years ago I stopped using it!] ... looks fine, lets me log in, but when I tried to bring up this page (cuz I thought I'd try replying in NS), I persistently got "Connection Refused", and after that SN wouldn't speak to NS at all. Maybe they don't like sharing initials. ;)

      But I don't remember anything that old that grokked PNG files? NS3.04 certainly doesn't.

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      • (Score: 2) by NCommander on Saturday March 14 2015, @06:34AM

        by NCommander (2) Subscriber Badge <michael@casadevall.pro> on Saturday March 14 2015, @06:34AM (#157677) Homepage Journal

        VMS Mosiac and Mosiac-CK both can handle PNG files.

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        • (Score: 2) by Reziac on Saturday March 14 2015, @02:01PM

          by Reziac (2489) on Saturday March 14 2015, @02:01PM (#157758) Homepage

          Ah. They must be much newer models.
          [goes off, looks 'em up]
          MUCH newer! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mosaic_%28web_browser%29#End_of_Mosaic [wikipedia.org]
          Found a copy here:
          ftp://ftp.hp.com/pub/openvms/freeware/mosaic/ [hp.com]

          Thanks! I'd had no idea there was a more or less modern version.

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          • (Score: 2) by NCommander on Sunday March 15 2015, @09:00AM

            by NCommander (2) Subscriber Badge <michael@casadevall.pro> on Sunday March 15 2015, @09:00AM (#157988) Homepage Journal

            Despite the name, VMS Mosiac should build on Linux. CK-MOsiac required hitting the makefile with a wrench to get it to build under Ubuntu, but otherwise was easy enough. PNGs load fine, though our site layout sans CSS is a bit awkward.

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            • (Score: 2) by Reziac on Sunday March 15 2015, @01:46PM

              by Reziac (2489) on Sunday March 15 2015, @01:46PM (#158014) Homepage

              Ah, no fun for me then... have yet to find a linux I can love for everyday use. :(

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              • (Score: 2) by NCommander on Sunday March 15 2015, @10:49PM

                by NCommander (2) Subscriber Badge <michael@casadevall.pro> on Sunday March 15 2015, @10:49PM (#158132) Homepage Journal

                My guess it would build on BSDs or under Cygwin. What OS do you use?

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                • (Score: 2) by Reziac on Monday March 16 2015, @01:13AM

                  by Reziac (2489) on Monday March 16 2015, @01:13AM (#158178) Homepage

                  WinXP. I live in a cave. :)

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                  • (Score: 2) by NCommander on Monday March 16 2015, @04:12AM

                    by NCommander (2) Subscriber Badge <michael@casadevall.pro> on Monday March 16 2015, @04:12AM (#158223) Homepage Journal

                    An unsupported cave :). It might still be possible to get it to build, Mosiac did build for Windows at one point. I remember using it.

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                    • (Score: 2) by Reziac on Monday March 16 2015, @04:37AM

                      by Reziac (2489) on Monday March 16 2015, @04:37AM (#158225) Homepage

                      Support is overrated ;) Yeah, antique Mosaic was a Win3.1 app. I can't seem to find a copy online right now, but here's an emulator!

                      http://www.dejavu.org/1994win.htm [dejavu.org]

                      Heh, SN doesn't look bad at all. Pretty much like an average modern Mobile page, in fact.

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