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posted by janrinok on Saturday February 28 2015, @11:59PM   Printer-friendly
from the the-earth-has-a-gas-problem dept.

Remember that story about the Siberian mystery crater last June? Turns out there are six more and, as Siberian Times reports, there could be dozens of others which popped out recently enough to allow satellite comparisons between before and after.

Respected Moscow scientist Professor Vasily Bogoyavlensky has called for 'urgent' investigation of the new phenomenon amid safety fears.

Until now, only three large craters were known about in northern Russia with several scientific sources speculating last year that heating from above the surface due to unusually warm climatic conditions, and from below, due to geological fault lines, led to a huge release of gas hydrates, so causing the formation of these craters in Arctic regions.

Two of the newly-discovered large craters - also known as funnels to scientists - have turned into lakes, revealed Professor Bogoyavlensky, deputy director of the Moscow-based Oil and Gas Research Institute, part of the Russian Academy of Sciences.

Examination using satellite images has helped Russian experts understand that the craters are more widespread than was first realised, with one large hole surrounded by as many as 20 mini-craters, The Siberian Times can reveal.

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Professor Bogoyavlensky told The Siberian Times: 'One of the most interesting objects here is the crater that we mark as B2, located 10 kilometres to the south of Bovanenkovo. On the satellite image you can see that it is one big lake surrounded by more than 20 small craters filled with water.

'Studying the satellite images we found out that initially there were no craters nor a lake. Some craters appeared, then more. Then, I suppose that the craters filled with water and turned to several lakes, then merged into one large lake, 50 by 100 metres in diameter.

[...]

Not only the new craters constantly forming on Yamal show that the process of gas emission is ongoing actively.

Professor Bogoyavlensky shows the picture of one of the Yamal lakes, taken by him from the helicopter and points on the whitish haze on its surface.

He commented: 'This haze that you see on the surface shows that gas seeps that go from the bottom of the lake to the surface. We call this process 'degassing'.

To appease your apocalyptic taste over the weekend, have a refresher in: clathrate gun hypothesis, limnic eruption (with Lake Nyos disaster and the management of Lake Kivu), other gas discharges like mazuku (CO2 discharge - with the Mammoth Mountain one which kills lots of trees by CO2 suffocation and killed three members of the ski patrol in 2006)

 
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  • (Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday March 01 2015, @12:14AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday March 01 2015, @12:14AM (#151300)

    I don't know about you, but this is scaring the living shit out of me. Look, Global Warming is real. We need to do something fast. We need to build more windmills, and we need to do it now. The only way we can prevent these Siberian craters from becoming the biggest goddamn disaster this world has ever seen is if we build more windmills. We need to harness the energy of the wind. That's the only way we can put an end to Global Warming. We need to use nothing but renewable energy, namely wind power. We need to replace all of our existing power sources with windmills. It's society's only option. We just can't keep going on like we've been going. It's causing Global Warming, and it's causing craters to form in Sibera, for crying out loud! We need more windmills, and we need them now. Wind power is the only thing that will save our Earth.

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday March 01 2015, @12:27AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday March 01 2015, @12:27AM (#151311)

    We need more windmills, and we need them now.

    Bah... an excellent example of the short term thinking that brought us in this very situation.
    Unless we start now planting more beans - with a side of cabbage (for flavor) and possibly bananas as desert (for sugars to ferment slowly) - we'll be running out of wind in no time and render those windmills useless.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday March 01 2015, @12:37AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday March 01 2015, @12:37AM (#151321)

      How is people shitting carbon dioxide, sulfur and methane from their anal sphincters going to help prevent climate change? Those are the very definition of greenhouse gases!

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday March 01 2015, @12:45AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Sunday March 01 2015, @12:45AM (#151327)

        Actually f-tard, the worlds termite population emits more CO2 than humans.

        • (Score: 2, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday March 01 2015, @12:48AM

          by Anonymous Coward on Sunday March 01 2015, @12:48AM (#151329)

          Actually [REDACTED], the worlds termite population emits more CO2 than humans.

          The correct term to use is "f-mentally challenged".

      • (Score: 2) by c0lo on Sunday March 01 2015, @12:45AM

        by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Sunday March 01 2015, @12:45AM (#151328) Journal

        How is people shitting carbon dioxide, sulfur and methane from their anal sphincters going to help prevent climate change?

        Carbon neutrality, I guess, as they constitute only a fraction of the biomass in the input.
        Additionally, the buffering solution is natural: no fly wheels or pumping water uphill necessary.
        (the GP AC may have a valid point)

        --
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0 https://soylentnews.org/~MichaelDavidCrawford
      • (Score: 2) by c0lo on Sunday March 01 2015, @01:47AM

        by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Sunday March 01 2015, @01:47AM (#151353) Journal

        How is people shitting carbon dioxide, sulfur and methane from their anal sphincters going to help prevent climate change?

        (I only now realized that, in my prev answer, I touched only the scientific side but ignored the engineering one).

        To correct the shortfall, the engineering answer to the How question is: at great speed and high volume.
        The higher the ejection speed, the better the efficiency; volume determines the amount of energy recovered.

        --
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0 https://soylentnews.org/~MichaelDavidCrawford
  • (Score: -1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday March 01 2015, @12:50AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday March 01 2015, @12:50AM (#151333)

    Come on, mods. "Flamebait"? Really? This is yet more evidence that the "Flamebait" mod needs to go. Every single time I see it used, it has been used incorrectly. Please, SN admins, get rid of the "Flamebait" mod! It's doing more harm than good.

    Or better yet, leave "Flamebait" around as an option. If anyone actually tries to use it, take away all of their mod points and prevent them from ever modding again.

    • (Score: 2, Disagree) by Snotnose on Sunday March 01 2015, @01:29AM

      by Snotnose (1623) on Sunday March 01 2015, @01:29AM (#151348)

      I marked it from 'funny' to 'troll'.

      --
      When the dust settled America realized it was saved by a porn star.
      • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday March 01 2015, @02:28AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Sunday March 01 2015, @02:28AM (#151373)

        Snotnose should be stripped of any present and future moderating abilities. He has just publicly admitted to being an active moderation system abuser. That should be grounds for the immediate and permanent revocation of his moderating privileges.

    • (Score: 5, Funny) by Ethanol-fueled on Sunday March 01 2015, @01:30AM

      by Ethanol-fueled (2792) on Sunday March 01 2015, @01:30AM (#151349) Homepage

      I rather like that mod. Not only is it a funny word with both homosexual and masturbatory connotations, but being modded flamebait literally makes me feel "on fire" when it comes to power-trolling.

      Or perhaps the moderations "troll" and "flamebait" should be merged into "trollbait" just as the moderations "Disagree" and "Touche" be merged into "Douche."

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday March 01 2015, @01:07AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday March 01 2015, @01:07AM (#151341)

    The only way we can prevent these Siberian craters from becoming the biggest goddamn disaster this world has ever seen is if we build more windmills.

    No lad, that's not gonna do it. Windmills only work in Holland. For Siberia you need more cold, more ice and more frozen tundra. What do they teach you kids in school these days, anyway?

    • (Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday March 01 2015, @01:10AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday March 01 2015, @01:10AM (#151343)

      Siberia is actually one of the windiest places on Earth. Windmills would work better there than almost anywhere else.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday March 01 2015, @01:13AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Sunday March 01 2015, @01:13AM (#151345)

        Whoooosh

      • (Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday March 01 2015, @02:08AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Sunday March 01 2015, @02:08AM (#151364)

        I wish the mod who keeps marking everything "funny" would submit a comment letting us in on the joke.

        I don't think this is funny at all, and it's probably a dick mod from some Fox News fan.

        - different AC

        • (Score: 1) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday March 01 2015, @02:30AM

          by Anonymous Coward on Sunday March 01 2015, @02:30AM (#151376)

          I'd be fine seeing the moderation system completely removed. The downmods are always incorrect, as are most upmods. I can't believe how many times I've seen utter crap at +5.

          - Yet Another AC

          • (Score: 4, Insightful) by black6host on Sunday March 01 2015, @04:07AM

            by black6host (3827) on Sunday March 01 2015, @04:07AM (#151405) Journal

            Well, sign it and help fix it.

            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday March 01 2015, @04:15AM

              by Anonymous Coward on Sunday March 01 2015, @04:15AM (#151409)

              Sorry, sign IN (or create an account)....

        • (Score: 1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday March 01 2015, @02:37AM

          by Anonymous Coward on Sunday March 01 2015, @02:37AM (#151379)

          The "Windmills only work in Holland" guy was making a reference to the practice of windmilling [urbandictionary.com]. It's basically when a man moves his pelvis so as to make his penis spin like a windmill's blades. It's a rather common practice in the Netherlands and Belgium, especially in clubs. Some of the clubs, both straight and gay, will have "Windmill Hour", where anyone windmilling for a minute or more will get a free drink. The humor comes in because the practice of windmilling, often being seen as homosexual, would likely be strictly forbidden in a place like Siberia, which is in Russia, where homosexuality is not considered socially acceptable.

        • (Score: 5, Insightful) by c0lo on Sunday March 01 2015, @03:14AM

          by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Sunday March 01 2015, @03:14AM (#151391) Journal

          I wish the mod who keeps marking everything "funny" would submit a comment letting us in on the joke.
          I don't think this is funny at all, and it's probably a dick mod from some Fox News fan.

          Those humour impaired righteous persons have wishes and everybody should bow to them or else be called names and exposed to public opprobrium.
          As a clue, you will detect them among the persons lacking the word "please" in their vocabulary - becuase it is absolutely right to ask whatever-they-are-asking and the answer should never be interpreted as a personal favour.

          Loosen up, mate, life is full of other shit you won't ever understand: why would one more matter?
          Look, for example, Fox News fans are usually republicunts, not dicks (no disrespect for any republicans on this list, I only put down my perception)
          Why? Nobody seems to know, I reckon this shall remain a mystery forever
          Yet... life goes on, regardless of what you (or, for the matter, me) think is proper humour. (... large grin...)

          Please let SN reflect the diversity of this life, in which even Ethanol Fuelled has a place and, surely, other traits worth of respect (even if no SN dweller may know them)

          (yes, AC, it is from me you got a Troll mod. As you wished, I have provided an explanation... this time)

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          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0 https://soylentnews.org/~MichaelDavidCrawford
    • (Score: 4, Funny) by c0lo on Sunday March 01 2015, @01:50AM

      by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Sunday March 01 2015, @01:50AM (#151356) Journal

      Windmills only work in Holland.

      Well, they were using them in Spain as well... as sparring partners.

      --
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0 https://soylentnews.org/~MichaelDavidCrawford
      • (Score: 2) by Kunasou on Sunday March 01 2015, @01:08PM

        by Kunasou (4148) on Sunday March 01 2015, @01:08PM (#151505)

        They used to work here... Nowadays the electric utility lobby does whatever they want with them...

  • (Score: 2) by LoRdTAW on Sunday March 01 2015, @03:04PM

    by LoRdTAW (3755) on Sunday March 01 2015, @03:04PM (#151526) Journal

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    Well, there's solar and hydro,
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