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posted by hubie on Monday May 05, @08:04AM   Printer-friendly

China may have achieved a "Sputnik moment" in the clean energy technology race by successfully reloading a nuclear reactor that runs on thorium:

According to Chinese state media, a group of scientists recently managed to refuel a working thorium molten salt reactor without causing a shutdown — a feat never achieved before. The success was announced by the project's chief scientist Xu Hongjie during a closed-door meeting at the Chinese Academy of Sciences on April 8, Chinese news outlet Guangming Daily reported last week.

Such a breakthrough could be transformative to the global energy landscape, as thorium has long been hailed as a far safer and cheaper alternative to uranium in nuclear reactors. While also a radioactive element, thorium produces less waste, and the silver-colored metal, mostly found in monazite, is much more common in the Earth's crust.

According to the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA), thorium is three times more abundant in nature than uranium, but historically has found little use in power generation due to the significant economic and technical hurdles.

[...] Compared to uranium, thorium can generate a significantly higher amount of energy via nuclear fission. A Stanford University research estimates that thorium's power generation could be 35 times higher. Thorium molten-salt reactors (TMSRs) are also compact, do not require water cooling, cannot experience a meltdown and produce very little long-lived radioactive waste, according to the IAEA.

When announcing the breakthrough, Xu acknowledged that its project was based on previous research by US researchers who pioneered molten salt reactor technology in the 1950s, but abandoned shortly after to pursue uranium-fueled ones.

Xu — who was tasked with the thorium reactor project in 2009 — told Chinese media that his team spent years dissecting declassified American documents, replicating experiments and innovating beyond them.

China's TMSR-LF1 Molten Salt Thorium Reactor Begins Live Refueling Operations:

Although uranium-235 is the typical fuel for commercial fission reactors on account of it being fissile, it's relatively rare relative to the fertile U-238 and thorium (Th-232). Using either of these fertile isotopes to breed new fuel from is thus an attractive proposition. Despite this, only India and China have a strong focus on using Th-232 for reactors, the former using breeders (Th-232 to U-233) to create fertile uranium fuel. China has demonstrated its approach — including refueling a live reactor — using a fourth-generation molten salt reactor.

The original research comes from US scientists in the 1960s. While there were tests in the MSRE reactor, no follow-up studies were funded. The concept languished until recently, with Terrestrial Energy's Integral MSR and construction on China's 2 MW TMSR-LF1 experimental reactor commencing in 2018 before first criticality in 2023. One major advantage of an MSR with liquid fuel (the -LF part in the name) is that it can filter out contaminants and add fresh fuel while the reactor is running. With this successful demonstration, along with the breeding of uranium fuel from thorium last year, a larger, 10 MW design can now be tested.

Since TMSR doesn't need cooling water, it is perfect for use in arid areas. In addition, China is working on using a TMSR-derived design in nuclear-powered container vessels. With enough thorium around for tens of thousands of years, these low-maintenance MSR designs could soon power much of modern society, along with high-temperature pebble bed reactors, which is another concept that China has recently managed to make work with the HTR-PM design.


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  • (Score: 5, Informative) by Rich on Monday May 05, @10:10AM (6 children)

    by Rich (945) on Monday May 05, @10:10AM (#1402788) Journal

    The present technology was primarily designed to generate fissile material for nuclear weapons,and its suitability for power generation, risks of meltdown, long term waste storage, etc... were afterthoughts.

    Hardly. CANDU and RBMK qualify, and the few metal cooled breeders left, but all the light-water stuff is energy-out only. The PWR has its origins in nuclear marine propulsion, so it is of military origins, too, but without any consideration for plutonium production.

    PWR and BWR simply won out for civilian production, because it's cheapest to just put a big water kettle up and spin a turbine from the steam. Having a huge mass of molten, corrosive, super radioactive stuff around as an alternative will not ever be economically viable, even if factoring out the disposal costs (and here, someone might enlighten us with the neutron budget available for fission product transmutation...).

    However, the prospect of long term continuous operation is very interesting where cost is not a primary issue - again, for military marine propulsion. Exhibit: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Type_004_aircraft_carrier [wikipedia.org] . If they get the continuous feeding and fission product right with the molten salt experiment, they've got a winner and get around rebuilding their ship each 10 years or so.

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  • (Score: 2, Interesting) by slon on Monday May 05, @01:27PM (1 child)

    by slon (52651) on Monday May 05, @01:27PM (#1402799)

    Does anyone know how they take the molten fuel out and replace it?

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  • (Score: 5, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 05, @02:12PM (1 child)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 05, @02:12PM (#1402806)

    You speak about neutron budget?

    Consider the consequence of enforcing a 'commercial reactor grade' limitation on fissile %, with the large remaining concentration of U-238.

    Submarine LWR's acheive high burn up because they have the neutron budget to burn through reactor poisons.

    The two things wrong with Liquid Thorium-Fluoride Reactors is that they breed nearly pure U-233 with an unremovable contaminant of U-232: which makes them an impractical choice for bombs. This make the nearly-pure fissile material unusable for bombs. This is the first thing 'wrong' with them.

    The second thing is the burn-up achievable in a U233 fueled reactor would be 'too high'. This is 'bad' in the sense that a commercial reactor cannot be allowed to have such a high fuel burn up. Compare with low-enriched 'commercial reactor grade' fuels: Even with physically huge cores (RBMK, CANDU) to maximise neutron economy by size scaling, it still is only single-digits %. The U238 simply sucks away too many neutrons.

    High burn-up (read: some non-single-%-of-fissile-quantity-fuel-efficiency) would make nuclear power cheaper by approximately the inverse of the burnup improvement. Ie, from say, 3% to 60% would make it 20x cheaper: Poor coal power would be unable to compete, and the powers that be did not want to allow this.

    So we're told that "because it's weapons grade, you can't have it".

    Meanwhile 100% fissile enriched fuel is routinely loaded into military small modular reactors (ie, submarines) and achieve such high fuel burn up that refuelling is probably not necessary for the service lifespans of the reactors.

    NuScale imploded as soon as someone sat down and ran the sums on using low-enriched fuel in LWR-SMR's. It doesn't work, economically, because the physically smaller reactor necessarily has a much poorer neutron economy, so burnup is even worse.

    This can also be shown simply from how very few remaining commercial nuclear ships remain: Just that one Russian one, probably because they *can* get high enriched fuel to run it. All the rest of those built in the 50's operated on low-enriched fuel, and were consequently commercially unviable until refit with Diesel engines.

    If low-enriched fuel in reactors was all that good, it would already have displaced coal, and it hasn't. SMR's with low enriched fuel make even less sense, and can't even keep up with coal.

    If you think my reasoning is wrong, 'because the cost of the fuel is only a tiny part of the costs of running commercial nuclear reactor', that would be because most of those 'other' costs also scale with how much you have to deal with the fuel, all of which would scale down if you didn't need to 'play' with it so much.

    The reason LFTR's can have extremely high burnups, is because it's feasible to actually remove the waste - at least the undesirable reactor-poison parts, whilst the reactor remains online.

    All fission reactors 'shit where they eat'. The process is stochastic, and happens distributed throughout the core. So the waste ends up there as well. Liquid Fluoride fuel allows the wastes to be removed without stopping the reactor.

    Putting the fuel in a form that can be pumped also allows it to flow to visit the heat exchanger when it's hot: This means that the heat exchanger doesn't need to also be a neutron-oven like the core. Doing fewer things at once allows a cheaper design to work better.

    Using a fluid that has such an incredibly high boiling point prevents causing steam explosions also. No need to design for those explosions, because no compressibility of fluids in the core.

    On top of that, if you do have a leak, it will soon freeze back into a solid rock again, which is soft enough to be easily broken up and removed piece by piece: Not something that is true of solid-fuel-reactor 'corium'.

    And then there's the chemical *stability* of the fluoride fuel against ionizing radiation: Unlike water, which constantly ionizes, fluoride salts are ionically bonded: Yes, with radiation present you'll get some F gas come out, but it's not a big deal because you can design for it, and it doesn't cause containment-building-shattering detonations like Hydrogen does.

    So far as 'oh no so much radioactive!!!' That doesn't actually matter. The reason is, distance is the best shielding, and you don't need all that much of it (metres). Oh and you can put shielding up, that lets people work only 10's of metres away. It's all very well understood by now. People can live on nuclear submarines and never receive any more dosage than they would at home as a civilian. Do you worry about being unable to safely hug a blast furnace without it burning you? No? Then why worry about not being allowed so close to a reactor core? At least these reactors don't require people to 'play with it's food' for it, unlike solid-fueled reactors, which actually all do.

    The fuel can just flow instead. And melt-downs are not a problem either: There can be a arranged a separate, non-critical configuration catchpot underneath, equipped with passive cooling as well as electric heater elements and a pump: so no physical access is required to later 'melt-up' the reactor and put it back into operation. They're melt-down 'compatible'. With the 'turn off' automatically doing this so reliably, that as soon as you start the process, you can just walk away because it'll be fine. This has already been demonstrated before.

    This world first - and it is one - was kind of already done before: Online refueling (albeit with Uranium) was demonstrated
    previously for a molten-salt reactor. Turns out you only need to drop the metal into the molten salt to do this, maybe add a little more Fluorine. It dissolves. You can add it in as a fluride also, and then it only melts and disperses. Getting the material to have it to put in - and I remind you: Nearly 100% pure fissile material - that's the challenge. IIRC their reactor design is just a huge pool of the fuel salt.

    I don't recall whether they surrounded it with a second 'breeder' salt with the Thorium in it, or just mix that into the one salt.

    Adding Thorium works the same way as adding Uranium, except that it *becomes* fissile later after absorbing one neutron and a decay process.

    Online refuelling from Thorium-derived U233 taken from a breeder blanket salt is genuinely new however, so this would still be a great achievement, assuming that's what they did.

    The whole goal of this low-power research reactor (with *passive* liquid-fuel flow through the heat exchangers: it just uses natural convection!) is really to provide a facility to provide 'used' fluoride fuel so they can develop the means to effect online *waste removal*. That new tech (which is theoretical only right now) would unlock the cheapest, safest and most sustainable (and also most green*!) energy source ever known: It will an epoch-defining event, not unlike the advent of steam power.

    * ecologically as well as literally: Uranium fluoride has that color too.

    • (Score: 5, Informative) by turgid on Tuesday May 06, @11:18AM

      by turgid (4318) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday May 06, @11:18AM (#1402893) Journal

      If you think my reasoning is wrong, 'because the cost of the fuel is only a tiny part of the costs of running commercial nuclear reactor', that would be because most of those 'other' costs also scale with how much you have to deal with the fuel, all of which would scale down if you didn't need to 'play' with it so much.

      Exactly. I worked at a Magnox station which ran on natural (unenriched) uranium. The reactors were enormous (the vessels were 20 metres diameter) and the whole thing only put out about 240MW electrical total from both. The cores had to be constantly refuelled on load to maintain the flux profile. There was the order of 20k fuel elements in each reactor. Handling fuel was a major part of the operation.

      A submarine gets loaded with fuel once. Thirty years later, they lift the reactor out with a crane. Job done.

  • (Score: 2) by JoeMerchant on Monday May 05, @07:41PM

    by JoeMerchant (3937) on Monday May 05, @07:41PM (#1402843)

    > get around rebuilding their ship each 10 years or so.

    Not a problem when you've got 11 ships on active duty...

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  • (Score: 2) by gnuman on Tuesday May 06, @08:13AM

    by gnuman (5013) on Tuesday May 06, @08:13AM (#1402880)

    CANDU has been designed to burn Plutonium (and everything else), not breed it. Basically, you could use it in a bind, but there are much more efficient ways of dong this.