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posted by hubie on Thursday July 03, @04:56PM   Printer-friendly

A new study is shedding light on why solar radiation is more effective than other forms of energy at causing water to evaporate. The key factor turns out to be the oscillating electric field inherent to sunlight itself:

"It's well established that the sun is exceptionally good at causing water to evaporate – more efficient than heating water on the stove, for instance," says Saqlain Raza, first author of a paper on the work and a Ph.D. student at North Carolina State University. "However, it has not been clear exactly why. Our work highlights the role that electric fields play in this process."

"This is part of a larger effort in the research community to understand this phenomenon, which has applications such as engineering more efficient water-evaporation technologies," says Jun Liu, co-corresponding author of the paper and an associate professor of mechanical and aerospace engineering at NC State.

To explore questions related to sunlight's efficiency at evaporating water, the researchers turned to computational simulations. This allowed them to alter different parameters associated with sunlight to see how those characteristics influence evaporation.

"Light is an electromagnetic wave, which consists – in part – of an oscillating electric field," Liu says. "We found that if we removed the oscillating electric field from the equation, it takes longer for sunlight to evaporate water. But when the field is present, water evaporates very quickly. And the stronger the electric field, the faster the water evaporates. The presence of this electric field is what separates light from heat when it comes to evaporating water."

But what exactly is the oscillating electric field doing?

"During evaporation, one of two things is happening," Raza says. "Evaporation either frees individual water molecules, which drift away from the bulk of liquid water, or it frees water clusters. Water clusters are finite groups of water molecules which are connected to each other but can be broken away from the rest of the liquid water even though they are still interconnected. Usually both of these things happen to varying degrees."

"We found that the oscillating electric field is particularly good at breaking off water clusters," says Liu. "This is more efficient, because it doesn't take more energy to break off a water cluster (with lots of molecules) than it does to break off a single molecule."

[...] "This work substantially advances our understanding of what's taking place in this phenomenon, since we are the first to show the role of the water clusters via computational simulation," says Liu.

Journal Reference:
Saqlain Raza, Cong Yang, Xin Qian, et al. Oscillations in incident electric field enhances interfacial water evaporation [open], Materials Horizons (DOI: 10.1039/D5MH00353A)


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  • (Score: 4, Interesting) by JoeMerchant on Thursday July 03, @05:25PM (1 child)

    by JoeMerchant (3937) on Thursday July 03, @05:25PM (#1409254)

    I have always been impressed with how puny a quantity of water is put into the air by ultrasonic room humidifiers, at least when in environments like the Colorado mountains in winter where it's desperately needed by 75F dewpoint dwellers such as myself.

    So, if the article can be translated to practical effect, the humidifier can augment its water evaporation with strong electric field light incident on the surface - maybe saving me from having to boil pots of water on the kitchen stove to survive the night without a dry-crack-and-bleed event in my sinuses.

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    • (Score: 5, Interesting) by PhilSalkie on Thursday July 03, @06:04PM

      by PhilSalkie (3571) on Thursday July 03, @06:04PM (#1409257)

      The paradoxical thing here is that ultrasonic humidifiers don't evaporate water at all. They just throw tiny droplets of water into the air, so that the heat of the air can evaporate the water more quickly by exposing more water surface area to the air molecules. That's why the air coming out of the devices feels colder than the surrounding air - it _is_ colder, because the heat of evaporation has been absorbed by the water as part of the process of changing from liquid phase to gaseous phase (phase changes are where the big energy gains and losses are - easy to heat water to the boiling point, much harder to actually boil it.)

      If you don't add heat to the equation, you just get colder and colder air in the room, eventually you hit the dew point and the "humidifier" just throws droplets of water onto the floor.

      Thus, the reason ultrasonic humidifiers are so "efficient" is that they rely on separate external heat sources to actually do the task they're claiming to do - and those aren't accounted for in peoples' minds, therefore they don't realize the extra cost of heating that's required to evaporate the water that their ultrasonic humidifier is flinging into the air.

  • (Score: 4, Informative) by hendrikboom on Thursday July 03, @08:10PM (2 children)

    by hendrikboom (1125) on Thursday July 03, @08:10PM (#1409268) Homepage Journal

    "We found that if we removed the oscillating electric field from the equation, it takes longer for sunlight to evaporate water"
    But if you remove the oscillating electric field you no longer have the sunlight that's supposed to evaporate the water. What sensible thing can they possibly mean instead of what they are saying?

    • (Score: 2) by namefags_are_jerks on Friday July 04, @02:04AM

      by namefags_are_jerks (17638) on Friday July 04, @02:04AM (#1409284)

      I'm suspecting an AI-authored article prompted with quotes from the researchers, given how confusing the description of the process is..

      Sunlight is somewhat wide-band Terahertz radiowaves, water is a fluid with a somewhat wide-band energy state. When way off the true molecular resonance frequency (2.4 GHz and friends), no single frequency will be optimal for energy absorption, but a distribution in frequency will statistically transfer energy better. I suspect the study was to actually confirm this, but it went over the article writer's/bot's head/LLM.

      I'd like to hear of a follow-up experiment comparing a prepared energy distribution of the liquid molecules (temperature?) with a prepared frequency distribution in the light..

    • (Score: 1) by khallow on Friday July 04, @06:01AM

      by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Friday July 04, @06:01AM (#1409289) Journal

      But if you remove the oscillating electric field you no longer have the sunlight that's supposed to evaporate the water.

      This. EM fields are a combination of electric and magnetic fields. Take one away, and you're taking the other away too as well as the energy of the EM field. My guess is that rather water absorbs energy from sunlight more efficiently than heat transfer from a stove through a pot.

  • (Score: 1) by anubi on Thursday July 03, @09:11PM (3 children)

    by anubi (2828) on Thursday July 03, @09:11PM (#1409271) Journal

    Make electric clothes dryers, with vent to room, for this purpose.

    Wanna humidify a room? Launder some clothes. In the summer, use no heat. It will take longer, but the primary goal was to get the water into the air. The clothes will come out chilled. Tumble them till room temp and dry. Towels, tshirts, socks, etc.

    I have hung wet towels over shower stall doors for this hybrid result.

    I wonder if flooding the dryer interior with microwave ( like a microwave oven ) would be beneficial, given this story?

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    • (Score: 1) by khallow on Saturday July 05, @03:31PM (2 children)

      by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Saturday July 05, @03:31PM (#1409392) Journal

      Wanna humidify a room? Launder some clothes. In the summer, use no heat. It will take longer, but the primary goal was to get the water into the air. The clothes will come out chilled. Tumble them till room temp and dry. Towels, tshirts, socks, etc.

      How do you deal with the lint in the air? You're breathing that unless you filter it well.

      • (Score: 1) by anubi on Saturday July 05, @11:15PM (1 child)

        by anubi (2828) on Saturday July 05, @11:15PM (#1409409) Journal

        Thanks... I didn't consider that angle. I had just remembered grandma drying my pajamas on one of those folding clothes drying racks during a Christmas visit, and grandpa telling me about how humidity works...as I was experiencing really dry air. And why the windows were wet on the inside although it was a cold sunny day outside.

        One "bird" was to humidity the air...the freshly washed clothes being dry was the other "bird".

        Grandpa was really big on that sort of thing.

        I really miss him. He was a farmer. He sure planted a lot of seeds - in me.

        I guess I am always trying to "kill two birds with one stone"... as grandpa used to say.

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        • (Score: 2) by PhilSalkie on Thursday July 10, @07:17PM

          by PhilSalkie (3571) on Thursday July 10, @07:17PM (#1409910)

          In winter we vent the electric dryer inside, hang a nylon knee-high off the vent pipe to catch lint. When the dryer's running, we run the HVAC fans to circulate the air and not just have one really humid room.

  • (Score: 4, Funny) by gawdonblue on Friday July 04, @01:44AM

    by gawdonblue (412) on Friday July 04, @01:44AM (#1409283)

    Just finished a load of washing and it's going straight on the outside clothes line, not, as originally planned, into the tanning booth.

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