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The NYT reports that after a video was posted on YouTube that appeared to show members of the fraternity Sigma Alpha Epsilon at University of Oklahoma singing a racist chant, the organization’s board decided “with no mental reservation whatsoever that this chapter needed to be closed immediately.” The video shows a group of young white people in formal wear riding a bus and singing a chant laden with antiblack slurs and at least one reference to lynching. A grinning young man wearing a tuxedo and standing in the aisle of the bus pumps his fist in the air as he chants, while a young woman seated nearby claps. The chant vows that African-Americans will “never” be allowed to join the campus chapter.
The nine-second video was uploaded to YouTube on Sunday by a student group, the Unheard Movement, that first identified the people in it as members of Sigma Alpha Epsilon, although the group did not indicate how it obtained the video or when it was filmed. University president, David Boren, said in an emailed statement that the administration was also investigating the video. “I have just been informed of the video, which purports to show students to show students engaging in a racist chant. We are investigating to determine if the video involved OU students. If O.U. students are involved, this behavior will not be tolerated and will be addressed very quickly,” said Boren. “This behavior is reprehensible and contrary to all of our values.” Students marched on the campus of the University of Oklahoma on Monday to protest the video.
(Score: 5, Interesting) by jmorris on Wednesday March 11 2015, @06:03PM
Shut up, they explain.
You have to be a Doubleplus Good DoubleThinker to understand American politics.
Al Sharpton isn't a racist. If you think he is, you are mistaken; it is just your own racist thinking. Blacks build entire organizations around themselves, only allowing their own to be members, distributing various benefits based entirely on race. None of this is racist. It is in fact racist to even notice this. There are entire organizations which only admit females and distribute benefits based entirely on sex. It is sexist to notice this.
Dr. King said he dreams of a day when everyone will be judged on the quality of their ideas and not the color of their skin. He is a Great Hero and most assuredly not a racist. Newt Gingrich agreed with him, proving he is a racist.
(Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Wednesday March 11 2015, @06:44PM
Dr. King said he dreams of a day when everyone will be judged on the quality of their ideas and not the color of their skin.
We have evaluated the quality of this idea and have found it lacking:The video shows men on a charter bus singing a chant indicating that black students, which the men refer to with a racial slur in the chant, could not "sign" with the fraternity. The chant also alluded to lynchings.
There are plenty of other predominantly white fraternities. It must only be a matter of time before they are banned due to the color of their skin, right?
(Score: 5, Insightful) by jmorris on Wednesday March 11 2015, @07:25PM
Hey, those guys were idiots, don't think we are likely to get an argument on that. Anybody who doesn't know everybody and their dog has a camera on their person and still does something that epicaly retarded deserves most of what is going to drop on them the next decade of their miserable lives.
But it is still helpful to point out the DoubleThink going on. If we all agree what they did was outside the bounds of generally acceptable social behavior then why is the United Negro College Fund still around? They are a tax deductable charitable organization that is explicitly racist. Other examples abound.
The way to stop discrimination on the basis of race is to stop discriminating on the basis of race. White people will soon drop below 50% of the U.S. population, so unless you are ready to accept a similar organization for them when they become a minority it is time to bring them all to an end. So which is it, was David Duke's National Accociation for the Advancement of White People was simply ahead of its time or is there a clearly defined principle to be pointed to saying why he was wrong? You can make reasoned and logically consistent arguments either way, that both are morally acceptable or that neither is, but there is no way to split that baby to permit the current practice to continue.
(Score: 5, Informative) by DeathMonkey on Wednesday March 11 2015, @07:44PM
But it is still helpful to point out the DoubleThink going on. If we all agree what they did was outside the bounds of generally acceptable social behavior then why is the United Negro College Fund still around? They are a tax deductable charitable organization that is explicitly racist. Other examples abound.
From the UNCF FAQ: [uncf.org]
Does UNCF help only African Americans?
Not at all. UNCF's member colleges and universities admit students without reference to race or ethnicity. UNCF's largest scholarship program, the Gates Millennium Scholars Program, supports Hispanic American, Asian/Pacific American and Native American students as well as African Americans.
Maybe you should find one of these abundant examples that actually applies...
(Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday March 11 2015, @07:52PM
But not white people, so this really doesn't counter his argument.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday March 11 2015, @10:55PM
Is a white person who was born in North America to parents who were born in North America to grandparents who were born in North America to greatgrandparents who were born in North America to greatgreatgrandparents who were born in North America to greatgreatgreatgrandparents who were born in North America considered to be a Native American?
(Score: 3, Insightful) by khedoros on Wednesday March 11 2015, @11:04PM
UNCF's member colleges and universities admit students without reference to race or ethnicity.
OK, sounds good. It should apply to everyone with strong academic qualifications who is in financial need, "without reference to race or ethnicity". That's a worthy goal.
Hispanic American, Asian/Pacific American and Native American students as well as African Americans.
Numerically, whites in poverty in the U.S. account for 41.6% of Americans under the poverty line (according to this, anyhow [kff.org]). But, wait, let's look at the Gates Millennium Scholars Program (as mentioned, the largest UNCF-administrated scholarship program):
What are the eligibility criteria for the GMS Program?
Students are eligible to be considered for a GMS scholarship if they: Are African American, American Indian/Alaska Native*, Asian Pacific Islander American** or Hispanic American
That seems to directly contradict the first statement of inclusiveness. I don't have a problem with them providing scholarships to students of their choice. I do have a problem with weasel-wording to make it sound like they include all students in need, when they don't. At least I can take solace in the fact that my son has heritage from several of their white-listed categories of race, in case my financial position degrades by the time he's looking at college.