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One of the things lacking from the FreeBSD installation routine is the easy installation of a full desktop experience, from X11 all the way up to a login manager, desktop environment, and its applications. It seems this might finally change for FreeBSD 15.0, as the FreeBSD Foundation's Laptop Support and Usability Improvements project is working on adding support for this to bsdinstall, the FreeBSD installer.
Based on a goal set out in this GitHub issue, the way this will work is that through a set of dialogs (which you can check out on GitLab) in the FreeBSD installer, the user can select to install KDE, which will then guide the user through installing the correct graphics driver and adding users to the video group. Once the installation is finished, the computer will reboot and load directly into SDDM, allowing you to log into the installed KDE Plasma desktop environment.
[...] Future plans for desktop users in the FreeBSD installers are more elaborate, and will include additional desktop environments to choose from, the ability to install sets of desktop applications during FreeBSD's installation, and yes, even opting for Wayland instead of X11, because FreeBSD developers know which way the wind is blowing.
This is excellent news, and will make installing a FreeBSD-based desktop a lot easier for a ton of people. Work isn't fully completed just yet, but even if the developers miss their FreeBSD 15.0 target, it'll just move on to one of the follow-up releases.
(Score: 2, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday July 31 2025, @02:25PM (2 children)
It is official; Netcraft confirms: *BSD is dying
One more crippling bombshell ht the already beleaguered *BSD community when IDC confirmed that *BSD market share has dropped yet gain, now down to less than a fraction of 1 percent of all servers. Coming on the heels of a recent Netcraft survey which plainly states that *BSD has lost more market share, this news serves to reinforce what we've known all along. *BSD is collapsing in complete disarray, as fittingly exemplified by failing dead last [samag.com] in a recent Sys Admin comprehensive networking test. Even security researchers are concerned that many security bugs go unnoticed and no longer believe that *BSD can survive [csoonline.com] against Linux.
You don't need to be a Kreskin [amdest.com] to predict *BSD's future. The hand writing is on the wall: *BSD faces a bleak future. In fact there won't be any future at all for *BSD because *BSD is dying. Things are looking very bad for *BSD. As many of us are already aware, *BSD continues to lose market share. Red ink flows like a river of blood.
FreeBSD is the most endangered of them all, having lost 93% of its core developers. The sudden and unpleasant departures of long time FreeBSD developers Jordan Hubbard and Mike Smith only serve to underscore the point more clearly. FreeBSD's market share is measured at 0.01% of all desktops [freebsd.org], lagging far beyond even Linux, which has struggled to make inroads on the desktop. There can no longer be any doubt: FreeBSD is dying.
Let's keep to the facts and look at the numbers.
OpenBSD leader Theo states that there are 7000 users of OpenBSD. How many users of NetBSD are there? Let's see. The number of OpenBSD versus NetBSD posts on Usenet is roughly in ratio of 5 to 1. Therefore there are about 7000/5 = 1400 NetBSD users. BSD/OS posts on Usenet are about half of the volume of NetBSD posts. Therefore there are about 700 users of BSD/OS. A recent article put FreeBSD at about 80 percent of the *BSD market. Therefore there are (7000+1400+700)*4 = 36400 FreeBSD users. This is consistent with the number of FreeBSD Usenet posts.
Due to the troubles of Walnut Creek, abysmal sales and so on, FreeBSD went out of business and was taken over by BSDI who sell another troubled OS. Now BSDI is also dead, its corpse turned over to yet another charnel house.
All major surveys show that *BSD has steadily declined in market share. *BSD is very sick and its long term survival prospects are very dim. If *BSD is to survive at all it will be among OS dilettante dabblers. *BSD continues to decay. Nothing short of a miracle could save it at this point in time. For all practical purposes, *BSD is dead.
Fact: *BSD is dying
(Score: 2) by Mojibake Tengu on Thursday July 31 2025, @03:01PM (1 child)
This meme is ageless. Appreciated.
Well, I am using FreeBSD desktop for 12 years in a row already. Been a Gentoo freak before for years, ragequitted.
Though no way to diverge me from Fluxbox until death. KDE is a shitpile.
The kinder you are, the easier it is for wicked people to morally coerce you.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by bart9h on Monday August 04 2025, @02:39AM
Fluxbox! Wow, that brings me very old memories..
I use i3wm nowadays.