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Scott Adams of Dilbert fame has posted a blog entry on gender discrimination. His goal is to gather as many links as possible on all sides of the issue; he intends to try to summarize what's out there in a subsequent post. His blog entry includes a few interesting, possibly insightful comments, for example:
"Some men are bullies and assholes. And most men are assholes at least some of the time. When men are bullies and assholes to each other, we interpret it as exactly that. But if I observe those same bullies and assholes mistreating a woman, I interpret it as sexism. I assume others see it the same way.
"The other day a good friend who works as a massage therapist was describing a time in her past she was a victim of gender discrimination. The story sounded convincing to me. Then I asked if she knew I would not have considered her as my massage therapist if she were a man. Cricket noises."
"My larger point today is that any discussion of gender in the workplace is like two blind people standing on an elephant and arguing whether the elephant is a sandwich or a bar of soap. Both are 100% wrong. That includes me."
Personally, I find Adams' writing to be frequently interesting — he at least tries to find his way around traditional blindspots. Sometimes he even succeeds. Since gender discrimination is so often a topic in technical fields, perhaps Soylentils will find this of interest...
(Score: 5, Insightful) by Pseudonymous Coward on Monday March 16 2015, @10:31AM
Every god damn time "gender discrimination" or "women in videogames" or "women in IT" is brought up? I start to hate the people who brought it up and the websites that host said content.
I get it, we ALL get it. Women sometimes are the victims of sexist jokes, workplace discrimination and objectification in video games. I've heard it well over 6 gorillion times.
But I absolutely despise it that no attention is ever brought to men being the victims of sexist jokes [youtube.com] or when gamers are stereotyped on TV shows that are obviously pushing a fucking agenda like some angry mob who are just out to rape women . [youtube.com] Or when men TOO are objectified in video games! [youtube.com]
But it's okay if heterosexual white men are being stereotyped and oppressed because they're the majority and they're the opressors!
I am tired of women being in the center of all of this like they're some crowd who needs protection, I thought all those feminists said they were "strong independent women"? Regardless, they have the same rights as men! *cough**cough* [huffingtonpost.com]
No. I am tired of this 'women' and 'minorities' issue being pushed like everyone that isn't white, male and straight is some monster that needs to check their privilege or get arrested for verbal rape!
* TRUE womens rights (voting, jobs, etc) in the western world haven't been an issue for ages
* Men's rights are trampled upon just as much as women's rights (male vs female circumcision!, child custody, heavier sentences)
* These issues are being used to uphold corruption [gamergate.me]
* These issues are being used by attention whores in order to get more pageviews (Dilbert right here, Youtube Celebs, etc)
No. What I see right here is hypocrisy, corruption, oppression on all sides (even worse in third world countries!), important issues not being discussed, being white-shamed out of anything because apparently being in IT and being white can be a potential problem in case feminists start looking at your business and complaining not enough women are hired and start some boycott campaign, which everyone follows blindly because the general public is like a flock of sheep. (Did you see how well that Charlie Hebdo thing worked in Europe? Imagine that with Feminists and the business you work at. Enjoy flipping burgers with you MSc in Comp Sci!)
My issues are with you just as much as with everyone else, reader of Soylentnews:
* You let this bullshit non-news out of the firehose
* You 'discuss' this shit and spread the word and continue the cycle
I thought you were different, SN.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 16 2015, @07:33PM
*Cue pensive piano music in the background*
Hello, my name is I.M.A. Douchenozzle. And the name of my little friend, here, is Pseudonymous Coward. I bet you come here everyday. You read stories here on SN. You post comments here, sometimes insightful, sometimes funny. You hurry off to other sites to see the many and varied wonders that the internet has to offer. In short, you are free to go where you want and read what you want, never having a care in the world. But, not so for Pseudonymous Coward. You see, he is a straight, white male. For him, the internet is a bewildering, scary place, overrun by angry feminists and their SJW enablers. And his world is rapidly shrinking. Because of hypocrisy, corruption, and oppression on all sides. Because of white-shaming. Heart breaking, isn't it? But what can you do? Turn away? Ignore the problem? Pretend it doesn't exist? Is there nothing we can do for him? Well, thanks to Voice Of Male Internet Trauma (VOMIT), now you can do something. VOMIT seeks to reach out to men like Pseudonymous Coward. To give them a safe place where they can be authentic men of integrity, the way God intended. A place where they can heal from the wounds of oppression. Just 80 cents a day is all it takes to give my friend Pseudonymous Coward the tools he needs to survive in today's confusing world, roiling with social change. Please. Won't you please give so that Pseudonymous Coward can have a chance at a better life? Would you look into his face and say no? Will you just turn away and do nothing?
Operators are standing by to take your call right now....
(Score: 1) by Pseudonymous Coward on Monday March 16 2015, @08:19PM
Yeah, except for the part where I am a bisexual crossdresser with a boyfriend who's still dealing with gender dysphoria. (I am white, though!)
I suspect you have an account on SN but would rather not deal with the fallout of hordes of "white male heterosexuals" storming on this website to reply to every reply you make. I understand that.
But please take your cowardly uninformed two-faced hypocritical opinions and post them somewhere other than SoylentNews, or atleast have the balls to do it with your main identity and face the scrutiny of your opinion. I thought this website was PEOPLE? THAT IS: ALL PEOPLE. Even people who you determine must be male and heterosexual and turn out to not be.
If I was out of the closet to my immediate close friends and family? I would've used my actual internet pseudonym to tell you this:
tl;dr: Fuck off, coward. You're out of your element.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 16 2015, @09:02PM
> I suspect you have an account on SN
I remember you.
Apparently you have multiple accounts on SN.
Not really the best position to be throwing stones from.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 16 2015, @10:48PM
Original AC back again:
Pardon me, but your original post seemed to be enraged that "it's okay if heterosexual white men are being stereotyped and oppressed because they're the majority and they're the opressors!" I think, given the content of your missive, that my assumption was reasonable, though apparently incorrect.
Your suspicion is incorrect. I always post AC. I would rather that people judge the content of my post, rather than engage in petty grudge matches.
Ouch! That hurt!
Now I have a message for you: if you look for something to be offended by, you will certainly find something every time. Without fail. Stop looking for ways to be offended. You will probably be much happier as a result.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 16 2015, @08:39PM
yo, more women in college than men, less women in prison than men, no wage gap except through personal choice because gender discrimination = illegal
dig the moves that i'm laying down, cat, you got nothin but fey pudgy snark
you garfield, my man, you the og original orange cat and jon has had it up to here with your fat lasagna craving ass
your era is what I call over, fella
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 16 2015, @10:59PM
Yo, if you got something to say I suggest you try to put it in some semblance of proper English, rather than faux Gangsta-speak.
Peace out, bruthah!