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posted by janrinok on Monday March 16 2015, @02:06AM   Printer-friendly
from the perspective dept.

Scott Adams of Dilbert fame has posted a blog entry on gender discrimination. His goal is to gather as many links as possible on all sides of the issue; he intends to try to summarize what's out there in a subsequent post. His blog entry includes a few interesting, possibly insightful comments, for example:

"Some men are bullies and assholes. And most men are assholes at least some of the time. When men are bullies and assholes to each other, we interpret it as exactly that. But if I observe those same bullies and assholes mistreating a woman, I interpret it as sexism. I assume others see it the same way.

"The other day a good friend who works as a massage therapist was describing a time in her past she was a victim of gender discrimination. The story sounded convincing to me. Then I asked if she knew I would not have considered her as my massage therapist if she were a man. Cricket noises."

"My larger point today is that any discussion of gender in the workplace is like two blind people standing on an elephant and arguing whether the elephant is a sandwich or a bar of soap. Both are 100% wrong. That includes me."

Personally, I find Adams' writing to be frequently interesting — he at least tries to find his way around traditional blindspots. Sometimes he even succeeds. Since gender discrimination is so often a topic in technical fields, perhaps Soylentils will find this of interest...

 
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  • (Score: 2, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 16 2015, @12:38PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 16 2015, @12:38PM (#158314)

    You have 14 points and one reference.
    Can you provide references for the rest?

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  • (Score: 2) by cubancigar11 on Tuesday March 17 2015, @04:05AM

    by cubancigar11 (330) on Tuesday March 17 2015, @04:05AM (#158727) Homepage Journal

    Look it up yourself. I found out about it myself.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_suicide_rate [wikipedia.org]
    http://www.hindawi.com/journals/isrn/2013/574973/tab2/ [hindawi.com]
    http://hyper.ahajournals.org/content/37/5/1199.abstract [ahajournals.org]
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23749317 [nih.gov]
    http://www.falserape.net/falserapeafa.htm [falserape.net]
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_accusation_of_rape [wikipedia.org]
    http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/false-rape-cases-in-delhi-delhi-commission-of-women/1/409320.html [intoday.in] (btw, rape means immediate arrest - and social stigma of arrest is infinitely bigger in India than USA)

    sorry... gotta go but you can just do Google and find many many studies. Regarding child rights and visitation rights or rape cases etc., it is hard to gauge the rate of false accusations unless you work closely with them because all this data not only doesn't fir the normal feminist narrative in media, people actually think that it is okay for some innocent men to suffer if one woman can be safer.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 17 2015, @06:21PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 17 2015, @06:21PM (#158999)

      Look it up yourself.

      That isn't very convincing but I'm an AC so I appreciate that you provided some links.

      "After menopause, however, blood pressure increases in women to levels even higher than in men" (Gender Differences in the Regulation of Blood Pressure)
      It is common that people forget that there is a large difference in heart disease risk between pre- and post-menopausal women. Heart disease is the number one killer for both men and women (WHO 2008).

      "DiCanio (1993) states that while researchers and prosecutors do not agree on the exact percentage of false allegations, they generally agree on a range of 2% to 10%." (Wikipedia)
      I would expect there would be under-reporting but I am doubtful that it is so much more that "More men are trapped in false rape cases than their are rape victims".

      "2% of child custody and/or visitation cases are in favor of fathers"
      I'll have to find a reference for this. It is a real shame that the system is biased against fathers and I would hope that it isn't that bad.

      • (Score: 2) by cubancigar11 on Wednesday March 18 2015, @01:40PM

        by cubancigar11 (330) on Wednesday March 18 2015, @01:40PM (#159366) Homepage Journal

        About 1 in 6 custodial parents were fathers (17.8 percent). (http://www.census.gov/prod/2011pubs/p60-240.pdf) 20 years ago. Since then a whole generation has comes that is referred to as 3rd wave of feminism and that actively demands that all rape accusations must be treated as true unless proven false. In India, from where I belong, National Commission of Women, the biggest organization of women was forced to admin that 53% of all reported cases of rape were in fact about consensual sex that didn't led to marriage. It is easy to get this data there because the definition of rape covers sex under promise of marriage. You won't get this data in USA because it is culturally acceptable for men to break-up.

        • (Score: 2) by cubancigar11 on Wednesday March 18 2015, @01:43PM

          by cubancigar11 (330) on Wednesday March 18 2015, @01:43PM (#159369) Homepage Journal

          About 1 in 6 custodial parents were fathers (17.8 percent). (http://www.census.gov/prod/2011pubs/p60-240.pdf)

          DiCanio is wrong and 20 years old. Since then a whole generation has comes that is referred to as 3rd wave of feminism and that actively demands that all rape accusations must be treated as true unless proven false. In India, from where I belong, National Commission of Women, the biggest organization of women was forced to admin that 53% of all reported cases of rape were in fact about consensual sex that didn't led to marriage. It is easy to get this data there because the definition of rape covers sex under promise of marriage. You won't get this data in USA because it is culturally acceptable for men to break-up.