The BBC published a rambling report on AI and Tech billionaires building large fully-autonomous "basements" in different locations. I love the quote "I once met a former bodyguard of one billionaire with his own 'bunker', who told me his security team's first priority, if this really did happen, would be to eliminate said boss and get in the bunker themselves. And he didn't seem to be joking."
Mark Zuckerberg is said to have started work on Koolau Ranch, his sprawling 1,400-acre compound on the Hawaiian island of Kauai, as far back as 2014
It is set to include a shelter, complete with its own energy and food supplies, though the carpenters and electricians working on the site were banned from talking about it by non-disclosure agreements, according to a report by Wired magazine.
Asked last year if he was creating a doomsday bunker, the Facebook founder gave a flat "no". The underground space spanning some 5,000 square feet is, he explained, "just like a little shelter, it's like a basement".
Then there is the speculation around other tech leaders, some of whom appear to have been busy buying up chunks of land with underground spaces, ripe for conversion into multi-million pound luxury bunkers.
Reid Hoffman, the co-founder of LinkedIn, has talked about "apocalypse insurance". This is something about half of the super-wealthy have, he has previously claimed, with New Zealand a popular destination for homes.
So, could they really be preparing for war, the effects of climate change, or some other catastrophic event the rest of us have yet to know about?
In the last few years, the advancement of artificial intelligence (AI) has only added to that list of potential existential woes. Many are deeply worried at the sheer speed of the progression.
Ilya Sutskever, chief scientist and a co-founder of Open AI, is reported to be one of them.
In a meeting, Mr Sutskever suggested to colleagues that they should dig an underground shelter for the company's top scientists before such a powerful technology was released on the world, [...] according to a book by journalist Karen Hao.
"We're definitely going to build a bunker before we release AGI," he's widely reported to have said, though it's unclear who he meant by "we".
What's more, it's unlikely to arrive as a single moment. Rather, AI is a rapidly advancing technology, it's on a journey and there are many companies around the world racing to develop their own versions of it.
But one reason the idea excites some in Silicon Valley is that it's thought to be a pre-cursor to something even more advanced: ASI, or artificial super intelligence - tech that surpasses human intelligence.
It was back in 1958 that the concept of "the singularity" was attributed posthumously to Hungarian-born mathematician John von Neumann. It refers to the moment when computer intelligence advances beyond human understanding.
Those in favour of AGI and ASI are almost evangelical about its benefits. It will find new cures for deadly diseases, solve climate change and invent an inexhaustible supply of clean energy, they argue.
Elon Musk has even claimed that super-intelligent AI could usher in an era of "universal high income".
"If it's smarter than you, then we have to keep it contained," warned Tim Berners Lee, creator of the World Wide Web, talking to the BBC earlier this month.
Governments are taking some protective steps. In the US, where many leading AI companies are based, President Biden passed an executive order in 2023 that required some firms to share safety test results with the federal government - though President Trump has since revoked some of the order, calling it a "barrier" to innovation.
Meanwhile in the UK, the AI Safety Institute - a government-funded research body - was set up two years ago to better understand the risks posed by advanced AI.
And then there are those super-rich with their own apocalypse insurance plans.
"Saying you're 'buying a house in New Zealand' is kind of a wink, wink, say no more," Reid Hoffman previously said. The same presumably goes for bunkers.
But there's a distinctly human flaw.
I once met a former bodyguard of one billionaire with his own "bunker", who told me his security team's first priority, if this really did happen, would be to eliminate said boss and get in the bunker themselves. And he didn't seem to be joking.
Neil Lawrence is a professor of machine learning at Cambridge University. To him, this whole debate in itself is nonsense.
"The notion of Artificial General Intelligence is as absurd as the notion of an 'Artificial General Vehicle'," he argues.
"The right vehicle is dependent on the context. I used an Airbus A350 to fly to Kenya, I use a car to get to the university each day, I walk to the cafeteria... There's no vehicle that could ever do all of this."
"The technology we have [already] built allows, for the first time, normal people to directly talk to a machine and potentially have it do what they intend. That is absolutely extraordinary... and utterly transformational.
Current AI tools are trained on mountains of data and are good at spotting patterns: whether tumour signs in scans or the word most likely to come after another in a particular sequence. But they do not "feel", however convincing their responses may appear.
Ultimately, though, no matter how intelligent machines become, biologically the human brain still wins. It has about 86 billion neurons and 600 trillion synapses, many more than the artificial equivalents.
"If you tell a human that life has been found on an exoplanet, they will immediately learn that, and it will affect their world view going forward. For an LLM [Large Language Model], they will only know that as long as you keep repeating this to them as a fact," says Mr Hodjat.
"LLMs also do not have meta-cognition, which means they don't quite know what they know. Humans seem to have an introspective capacity, sometimes referred to as consciousness, that allows them to know what they know."
It is a fundamental part of human intelligence - and one that is yet to be replicated in a lab.
(Score: 4, Interesting) by istartedi on Monday October 20, @04:17PM (3 children)
Survivalists don't seem to spend a lot of time focusing on the empirical data. I have to admit I haven't either; but I don't think having a stock full of food and guns and holing up with your family is the ideal profile. The best survivors seem to be the ones who recognize the danger early and leave. Smart people, you know, like Einstein and the like who saw the writing on the wall and got out of Germany. If you're not a world-class physicist or somebody special and you don't have the ways and means to get out then the survival seems to center around not attracting too much attention to yourself, and learning to "play the game". It's no guarantee, since when society goes full off the rails you get in to situations where neighbors preemptively report on each other to avoid the gulag. It becomes a crap shoot, which is not what you want. If there's no place in the world to flee and the game is anarchy, then it seems like survival is going to depend mostly on who has the best organization. Serfs in the Middle Ages weren't necessarily victims. They could run in to the castle when it was attacked, participating in mutual defense with the lords. It could come to that.
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(Score: 2, Interesting) by VLM on Monday October 20, @08:12PM (2 children)
Need to store water. Lots of water. And some camping filters. I have camping filters, partially because I camp, partially because it might be a good idea just in case. My buddy in Florida fits your profile pretty well and they weather a hurricane in place every couple years. They are far too high ASL and far to far away from the coasts to have to worry about storm surge but they get quite a bit of rain/wind every other year or so, it seems.
Actually, I fit your profile pretty well. I also don't store enough water (probably only ten or twenty gallons or so of drinking water). My realistic risks are ice storms and blizzards.
Its interesting that both "prepper people" and the outsiders make fun of the zombie apocalypse people. The most famous prepper podcaster I know of has a tag line something like "helping you be better prepared if times get tough, or even if they don't". In that theme, its hard to say what my garden is; I'm OK at growing food which would be extremely valuable in a collapse, but I also enjoy the exercise, enjoy the outdoors, and I enjoy eating what I grow. I grew a ton of mint one year and turned some into mint julep drinks, that was fun, picked the leaves right off the vine.
I think quite a few "zombie prepper" gun nut people enjoy setting off easily deranged normies and also REALLY enjoy the sport of competitive target practice. The fun part is becoming an expert marksman, absolutely hyper triggering normies by making jokes about zombie preps is just a bonus. Imagine if I could set TDS victims into an absolute rage by merely baking cookies; I'd be baking the heck out of cookies every weekend while laughing; it could happen, look what the usual suspects did to the "OK" hand signal LOL. And then I'd have to eat the delicious home baked (admittedly probably not healthy) cookies, oh no!
I think theres a lot of people getting played in the prepper field, its mostly clickbaiting on both sides.
(Score: 2, Informative) by khallow on Tuesday October 21, @03:36AM (1 child)
If you have even a few minutes of warning about an impending water outage, you can fill up a bathtub. That's roughly 80 gallons according to the internets. A lot of prep can go on shortly before a disaster hits, if you get enough warning and act on it.
(Score: 2) by VLM on Tuesday October 21, @05:13PM
Its a time and labor thing. Someone with warning of a failing water system can get a zillion gallons ready to use with minimal time and effort, however, after the water shuts off, slowly using my camping filters with my garden rain barrels would take hours or days to process them. I have "ten or so" ready to drink gallons of water in stock; thats probably enough. There is the bigger question of use my rainwater barrels to drink or water my garden or find some other source (I live near a recreational river; I could haul hundreds of gallons of water at a time just a mile or two to water my garden if it were worthwhile labor... Hmm.