This journal is asking those with complaints to be up front about them. If you notice kolie is addressing each one of them in turn and correcting their misunderstanding of issues.
(Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 21, @01:38PM
by Anonymous Coward
on Tuesday October 21, @01:38PM (#1421598)
Soylentils are mostly outdated, thinking facts are trolling while trolls are funny. Very 90s era internet culture. I guess that was the point, even floated a 4chan culture for a bit which still pops up these days. None of it is surprising but I had held out hope for this bunch of nerds. Criticism is hard to take, some people never learn how.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 21, @10:14PM
(10 children)
by Anonymous Coward
on Tuesday October 21, @10:14PM (#1421669)
They probably don't, but I think it is good for people to see what is being posted and what the admins have to deal with. Absent a way to see all flagged posts in their own dedicated area, this seems the next best thing to do that. For some people, absence of evidence is evidence of absence. And others are curious to learn. An occasional public reminder, like war memorials and museums, can go a long way for those people.
That's what a banned user entails. Post from that user are being flagged. I'm happy to reveal flagged post contents, and where there is sensitive details I will provide a summary of the sensitive content where appropriate.
Nobody is saying that there isn't a record - only that the software to complete the community access is not yet written. That will change as a result of this trial when we know exactly how it will be managed.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 23, @11:09PM
(7 children)
by Anonymous Coward
on Thursday October 23, @11:09PM (#1421955)
Nobody said that, not even me. In case my point was lost, I was trying to say that the engagement here with the post that would normally be banned serves a different purpose than it would on a normal discussion thread.
I had hoped this discussion would be more substantive. Unfortunately, while there are some varied contributions, many posts are simply a rehash of the exact same old spam that typically go flagged. It's tiresome to repeatedly attempt clarifying a point that is simply not being engaged with. This experience confirms, once again, that any endeavor to discuss this banned user in earnest is once again proven futile.
(Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 27, @10:48AM
(1 child)
by Anonymous Coward
on Monday October 27, @10:48AM (#1422458)
You really don't understand, at all, do you, kolie? You keep asking, but not listening. I was hopeful when you showed up as the savior of SoylentNews, but now I am starting to see that nothing will change. Sorry.
Since you seem intent on arguing purely by ipse dixit, you leave us with no rationale to analyze. You steadfastly refuse to make your esoteric beliefs exoteric for the rest of us. Given this steadfast refusal to provide any logical framework, what is one to conclude, other than that your objective is not consensus, but conflagration?
(Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 26, @11:27PM
(1 child)
by Anonymous Coward
on Sunday October 26, @11:27PM (#1422404)
I think it has, just not in the way intended. A consideration I have seen that I think has at least some life is that the site is now championing its community nature but the ban is still based on the staff decision. However, if the board and community at large were to take a vote on continuing the ban, I think a simple gesture at this journal and the last time this was attempted would make the vote unanimous. And I would consider doing just that. But, given the subject of the vote, I'd also consider if it would make a practical difference to the situation.
(Score: 3, Funny) by mrpg on Monday October 20, @09:52PM (17 children)
Do not feed the trolls.
(Score: 2) by janrinok on Tuesday October 21, @03:44AM (2 children)
This journal is asking those with complaints to be up front about them. If you notice kolie is addressing each one of them in turn and correcting their misunderstanding of issues.
The trolls are digging their own holes.
[nostyle RIP 06 May 2025]
(Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 21, @07:08AM
No trolls here, except King Janrinok, God-emperor of Censor Trolls! My pieces be upon him!
(Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 21, @10:35AM
Jan the serial flagger has flagged again, despite being requested NOT to do so. Oh, dear, looks like our discussion of "stuff" is over.
(Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 21, @01:38PM
Soylentils are mostly outdated, thinking facts are trolling while trolls are funny. Very 90s era internet culture. I guess that was the point, even floated a 4chan culture for a bit which still pops up these days. None of it is surprising but I had held out hope for this bunch of nerds. Criticism is hard to take, some people never learn how.
(Score: 2) by kolie on Tuesday October 21, @03:47PM (12 children)
I think there is lots of food being offered to trolls.
(Score: 2) by mrpg on Tuesday October 21, @08:35PM (11 children)
It's good to clear the air but I think some of those deserve no time at all.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 21, @10:14PM (10 children)
They probably don't, but I think it is good for people to see what is being posted and what the admins have to deal with. Absent a way to see all flagged posts in their own dedicated area, this seems the next best thing to do that. For some people, absence of evidence is evidence of absence. And others are curious to learn. An occasional public reminder, like war memorials and museums, can go a long way for those people.
(Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday October 22, @10:01AM
Nah, if you want to see real spam, check out the raw feed on journal submissions. Amazing what people think we need and will try to sell.
(Score: 2) by janrinok on Wednesday October 22, @11:05AM (8 children)
Nobody is saying that there isn't a record - only that the software to complete the community access is not yet written. That will change as a result of this trial when we know exactly how it will be managed.
[nostyle RIP 06 May 2025]
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 23, @11:09PM (7 children)
Nobody said that, not even me. In case my point was lost, I was trying to say that the engagement here with the post that would normally be banned serves a different purpose than it would on a normal discussion thread.
(Score: 2) by kolie on Friday October 24, @01:05AM (6 children)
I had hoped this discussion would be more substantive. Unfortunately, while there are some varied contributions, many posts are simply a rehash of the exact same old spam that typically go flagged. It's tiresome to repeatedly attempt clarifying a point that is simply not being engaged with. This experience confirms, once again, that any endeavor to discuss this banned user in earnest is once again proven futile.
(Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 24, @10:35AM (3 children)
You know what the problem is, and you know what the solution is, kolie. All that remains is to implement it.
(Score: 2) by kolie on Friday October 24, @02:26PM (2 children)
Thx for really clearing that up.
(Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 27, @10:48AM (1 child)
You really don't understand, at all, do you, kolie? You keep asking, but not listening. I was hopeful when you showed up as the savior of SoylentNews, but now I am starting to see that nothing will change. Sorry.
(Score: 2) by kolie on Monday October 27, @06:09PM
Since you seem intent on arguing purely by ipse dixit, you leave us with no rationale to analyze. You steadfastly refuse to make your esoteric beliefs exoteric for the rest of us. Given this steadfast refusal to provide any logical framework, what is one to conclude, other than that your objective is not consensus, but conflagration?
(Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 26, @11:27PM (1 child)
I think it has, just not in the way intended. A consideration I have seen that I think has at least some life is that the site is now championing its community nature but the ban is still based on the staff decision. However, if the board and community at large were to take a vote on continuing the ban, I think a simple gesture at this journal and the last time this was attempted would make the vote unanimous. And I would consider doing just that. But, given the subject of the vote, I'd also consider if it would make a practical difference to the situation.
(Score: 2) by kolie on Monday October 27, @08:28PM
I'll get right on it.