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posted by LaminatorX on Friday March 14 2014, @11:10AM   Printer-friendly
from the won't-someone-please-think-of-the-dealerships dept.

einar writes:

"New Jersey's governor Christie has decided that all new motor vehicles must be sold through middlemen. This blocks Tesla from directly selling cars, without traditional car sellers. Although, New Jersey decided so this week, they are in good company: 48 states in the US ban or restrict direct car sales."

 
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  • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 14 2014, @12:14PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 14 2014, @12:14PM (#16295)

    This is circulating around "the other site" about commenters being blocked:

    http://slashdot.org/firehose.pl?op=view&type=submi ssion&id=3407785 [slashdot.org]

    Is that true? Are dissenters being blocked? Are we doomed to go down the /. road? Oh, wait, as far as I recall, they didn't block people over there (just downmodded).

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  • (Score: 2, Insightful) by wantkitteh on Friday March 14 2014, @12:47PM

    by wantkitteh (3362) on Friday March 14 2014, @12:47PM (#16315) Homepage Journal

    Pics/Logs or it didn't happen.

  • (Score: 5, Interesting) by bucc5062 on Friday March 14 2014, @01:24PM

    by bucc5062 (699) on Friday March 14 2014, @01:24PM (#16345)

    I looked at that post and first off, it is getting little attention on /.. Second, you post as AC and yet your "voice" rings a little like the poster on /., makes me wonder. Finally, proof? Perhaps you are a troll, an AC one to boot, trying to stir up trouble.

    Given what this site has done, and the reason behind it, I find it incredible that commenters are being "blocked". You post as AC so your voice is heard. show how or where someone got blocked. If it did happen then that person could just start another username, switch posting location and show to the world the crime. No, the BS meter is pegged on this one.

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    • (Score: -1) by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 14 2014, @01:28PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 14 2014, @01:28PM (#16347)

      Really? After all the drama of the last week, and the TOTAL LACK of transparency on the part of our benevolent overlords until the kettle boils over (which it seems to do every other day), can you feel safe in saying they don't block? I sure don't. That's why I'm using AC.

      • (Score: 4, Informative) by nobbis on Friday March 14 2014, @01:47PM

        by nobbis (62) on Friday March 14 2014, @01:47PM (#16364) Homepage Journal

        Look at the log [sylnt.us] , also mattie_p is providing ample transparency in his post.

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        • (Score: 2) by gottabeme on Friday March 14 2014, @03:37PM

          by gottabeme (1531) on Friday March 14 2014, @03:37PM (#16449)

          Besides all that, we should remember that we are all really just freeloaders; freeloaders who contribute story suggestions and relatively interesting comments, perhaps, but still mostly freeloaders. We've contributed no money, so we have no actual right to demand anything, not even transparency.

          Now since this is intended to be a community site and project, etc, it would be good if the powers that be were transparent--and I think they have been. But we should still remember that we have no right to demand anything.

          The Web is like a series of fiefdoms. Each lord allows us peasants to play in his yard. If he doesn't like us, he can banish us. If we don't like him, we can take our ball and go elsewhere. The good part is that there are effectively an unlimited number of fiefdoms. The bad part is that getting people to play in yours isn't easy.

          And then there's the human nature part: absolute power corrupts, people take free stuff for granted, etc.

    • (Score: 1) by Subsentient on Friday March 14 2014, @08:02PM

      by Subsentient (1111) on Friday March 14 2014, @08:02PM (#16607) Homepage Journal

      Mmm, I think not. I was there, Khyber went nuts.

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  • (Score: 2, Funny) by snick on Friday March 14 2014, @01:36PM

    by snick (1408) on Friday March 14 2014, @01:36PM (#16353)

    NCommander is a poopy-head.

    Let's see how long _this_ comment lasts.

  • (Score: 4, Informative) by Vanderhoth on Friday March 14 2014, @01:37PM

    by Vanderhoth (61) on Friday March 14 2014, @01:37PM (#16355)

    Sounds like someone spreading FUD, Probably working for Dice. I wouldn't pay it any creed as it's just validating it. Seriously one guy complaining out of, what are we up to now? 3800 UIDs, let me know when there's at least 10% complaining of the same thing and I'll take it seriously. I've read plenty of critical to obscene comments in the update stories and on IRC to feel comfortable in saying *IF* this guy was being blocked it probably was for good reason.

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    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 14 2014, @04:41PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 14 2014, @04:41PM (#16498)

      For the record (and I'm not the same Coward) I temporarily thought a post of mine was modded away on the recent DVDFab thread because I asked about alternative ripping software. (Figured it was verboten to ask or something.)

      It later became evident that the post was there, but something weird about Soylent/slashcode's display system keeps it from appearing on browser refreshes. So I ended up mistakenly double posting.

      Not even close to the same thing as the "rumor monger" here, but I just wanted to mention that SN's moderation policy / openness was not obvious to me. I'm sure it's in a ToS somewhere. :)

      • (Score: 3, Informative) by mattie_p on Friday March 14 2014, @05:06PM

        by mattie_p (13) on Friday March 14 2014, @05:06PM (#16512) Journal

        I doubt it. I think we're still writing the ToS, for the site as well as our other services. I think it is interesting that no one cares if we delete a wiki spam page or calls it "censorship."

        Essentially, moderation on the site is the responsibility of users, not the staff. I don't even moderate anymore because I end up undoing it once I inevitably post in a thread. But even when I did moderate, I got the same 10 points everyone else got. I tend to browse at -1, and newest comments first (ignore threads), so I see almost every post.

        We keep the headlines and stories (anything on the front page) SFW. Comments are up to the community as a whole to decide what is appropriate, and moderate accordingly.

        Other venues have different means of moderation, and we do need to make those public. As soon as they are written we will open up for preview and comment. Thanks for reading! ~mattie_p

  • (Score: 5, Informative) by LaminatorX on Friday March 14 2014, @01:42PM

    by LaminatorX (14) <laminatorxNO@SPAMgmail.com> on Friday March 14 2014, @01:42PM (#16358)

    mattie_p [slashdot.org]

    replied to you directly already, including links to logs of the behavior that led to your being hushed on IRC, which doesn't affect your access to posting here in any way.

    Get over yourself.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 14 2014, @01:56PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 14 2014, @01:56PM (#16371)

      Dude was a dick on IRC so he got banned? Then where's the line? Who decides to ban what? I'm not comfortable with the idea of banning someone just for talking shit, because under those circumstances we'd all be banned at some point or another no?

      • (Score: 1) by Dogeball on Friday March 14 2014, @02:20PM

        by Dogeball (814) on Friday March 14 2014, @02:20PM (#16387)

        No, because most of us aren't dicks talking shit on IRC.

      • (Score: 4, Informative) by MrGuy on Friday March 14 2014, @02:34PM

        by MrGuy (1007) on Friday March 14 2014, @02:34PM (#16397)

        Read the post again. Someone who was (allegedly - I wasn't there) being a jerk on IRC was hushed on IRC. Not on the site or anywhere else. Just on IRC. There's no statement that it was permanent.

        It's been awhile since I was an op on an IRC channel, but this is exactly what I'd do if someone was off topic/abusive and wouldn't stop despite warnings - give them a "cooling off" period, then re-instate and see if they've learned their lesson to be a respectful participant in the discussion.

      • (Score: 3, Informative) by moondrake on Friday March 14 2014, @02:44PM

        by moondrake (2658) on Friday March 14 2014, @02:44PM (#16408)

        People can banned on IRC all the time, for less than what I read in the logs. The line is exactly where the channel operator puts it, you always respect that. He was even warned.

        Here on the site its different. I would deal with banning very careful (and only do it when really necessary). The moderation system should take care of most shit.

        But there are exceptions (especially for illegal stuff, though I guess in the US you can say pretty much everything, except when it is about scientology). Probably this needs to be put into a document so it is clear where the line is.

      • (Score: 2, Interesting) by tibman on Friday March 14 2014, @04:50PM

        by tibman (134) Subscriber Badge on Friday March 14 2014, @04:50PM (#16503)

        Sounds like he has threatened a 400tb ddos multiple times. That could be grounds for a banning.

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  • (Score: 1) by Buck Feta on Friday March 14 2014, @01:44PM

    by Buck Feta (958) on Friday March 14 2014, @01:44PM (#16360) Journal

    Dissenters about what?

    You're going to have to be a lot more specific if you want anybody to take this more seriously than what it smells like.

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