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Anyone who follows American politics will have heard of Hillary Clinton's email server. Rather than using an official State Department address, she chose to use a private server for her official email. Federal law requires all official email to be archived on government servers. Armchair lawyers have pointed out that it doesn't require the use of government servers to send and receive the email, but the archival requirement is clear. This requirement was clearly violated in this case: in response to a subpoena, Hillary Clinton's private staff extracted emails from her private server and turned them over to the government. The contents of the server itself were never made available to the government, and now she has had the server erased:
Hillary Clinton wiped “clean” the private server housing emails from her tenure as secretary of state, the chairman of the House committee investigating the 2012 terrorist attacks in Benghazi said Friday.
“While it is not clear precisely when Secretary Clinton decided to permanently delete all emails from her server, it appears she made the decision after October 28, 2014, when the Department of State for the first time asked the Secretary to return her public record to the Department,” Rep. Trey Gowdy (R-S.C.), chairman of the Select Committee on Benghazi, said in a statement.
As Popehat tweeted:
@Popehat
I ask you, who among us hasn't wiped a server clean after its contents were requested by subpoena?
I naively wonder why she isn't in jail, but that's just me. Comments and views from those interested in American politics?
(Score: 4, Insightful) by linuxrocks123 on Monday March 30 2015, @03:44PM
perhaps my kids will get enough time to come of age before civilization comes crashing down.
See, stuff like this is just pure wing-nuttery. Both parties in the US are pretty centrist, although the Republicans do have a large far-right contingent that the establishment tries to keep mostly under control. Hillary Clinton has no interest in and will not intentionally cause the downfall of civilization. She's not the Antichrist, and it's not in her interest to do that. She's also an intelligent human being who would have a pretty good understanding of what actions would and would not be likely to cause the downfall of civilization, and, again, in her own self-interest if for no other reasons, she would choose not to engage in actions likely to cause the downfall of civilization.
It's fine not to like Obama, either Clinton, McCain, Bush, etc. But they're people, not demons. Get it together.
(Score: 4, Insightful) by Phoenix666 on Monday March 30 2015, @04:01PM
OK, do you know these people personally? Have you interacted with them? I have. I have sat in meetings with them, I have been in their inner sanctums. They are not honorable people, they do not care one jot for you or anyone else. They are as alien to the experience of the average American as an actual alien. To put it in American terms, they are like the Palins, but with better PR success. That is, they are grifters.
I do know the difference between normal people, and normal people with the ability to screw things up for a great many more people than themselves. The Clintons are the latter. They should not be let anywhere near the levers of power again, however symbolic those levers of power have become.
So do not stand up in defense of politicans you do not know, unless you are a paid shill. It calls you out, and renders your words moot.
Washington DC delenda est.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 30 2015, @09:12PM
OK, do you know these people personally? Have you interacted with them? I have. I have sat in meetings with them, I have been in their inner sanctums.
You are so fucking delusional. There is no way you've ever "sat in a meeting" with Obama, the Clintons, McCain, or any Bush. Not a chance. Maybe you attended one of the tens of inauguration balls held after every election, and they made a perfunctory appearance before moving on to the next one. But even that's a stretch.
(Score: 2) by hemocyanin on Tuesday March 31 2015, @09:49PM
This part makes me think he's telling the truth.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 01 2015, @09:08PM
How can you be so sure? First you need to read more carefully, he never claimed to have been in a meeting with Obama, Bush or McCain, he was talking specifically about the Clintons.
In another comment he claimed to have worked for a PoTUS, and in a different comment he stated he had sat in a meeting with Bill Clinton and Chris Ruddy. Taken together this implies he worked for Bill Clinton while he was president, that being the case it is plausible he would also have met Hilary Clinton.
We may not be able to verify Phoenix666's claims, but they are at least coherent and plausible.
(Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 30 2015, @06:08PM
Both parties in the US are pretty centrist
Centrist? compared to themselves, maybe. Compared to every other industrialized nation on the planet both parties are right wing. The Republican party is slightly more right wing and its "base" (crazy minority) is totalitarian. E.g., socialized, single payer health care is a centrist idea with the humans on the rest of the planet. It's considered a left wing conspiracy in the U.S.
(Score: 2, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 30 2015, @06:16PM
No, even the "left" in the US is pretty far to the right. The US has two parties - the right and the bat-shit-crazy insanely-far right. Even a centrist position would get you mocked as a "communist" in the US. That what we call "communist" isn't even a position to the left, being "totalitarian state capitalism" and all, doesn't help.
(Score: 2) by HiThere on Monday March 30 2015, @07:34PM
I'll agree that both parties in the US are pretty similar, but I'd call them rather far towards the authoritarian wing of the authoritarian-anarchist axis, and not very near the center at all. I *do* think that the center is the only sane type of government, but that's not what you get when you have government run by those who worship power.
Javascript is what you use to allow unknown third parties to run software you have no idea about on your computer.
(Score: 2) by dry on Tuesday March 31 2015, @04:01AM
Look at the 2008 contenders politics, http://politicalcompass.org/images/usprimaries_2008.png [politicalcompass.org] , 2 contenders to the left and 3 contenders towards the libertarian philosophy. The rest are right wing authoritarians to one degree or another with the most extreme being red.
(Score: 2) by linuxrocks123 on Tuesday March 31 2015, @06:40AM
I've never heard of that site. Why do you think it is persuasive?
(Score: 2) by dry on Sunday April 05 2015, @05:52PM
Read their introduction at http://politicalcompass.org/ [politicalcompass.org] and perhaps check out their test. It's not perfect but compared to the idiots who call Obama socialist or communist because he gave a huge giveaway to the insurance companies...