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posted by cmn32480 on Monday April 06 2015, @10:47AM   Printer-friendly
from the hypocrisy-knows-no-bounds dept.

David Knowles reports at Bloomberg that former Hewlett-Packard CEO and potential 2016 presidential candidate Carly Fiorina called out Apple CEO Tim Cook as a hypocrite for criticizing Indiana and Arkansas over their Religious Freedom Restoration Acts while at the same time doing business in countries where gay rights are non-existent. “When Tim Cook is upset about all the places that he does business because of the way they treat gays and women, he needs to withdraw from 90% of the markets that he’s in, including China and Saudi Arabia,” Fiorina said. “But I don’t hear him being upset about that.”

In similar criticism of Hillary Clinton on the Fox News program Hannity, Fiorina argued that Clinton's advocacy on behalf of women was tarnished by donations made to the Clinton Foundation from foreign governments where women's rights are not on par with those in America. ""I must say as a woman, I find it offensive that Hillary Clinton travels the Silicon Valley, a place where I worked for a long time, and lectures Silicon Valley companies on women's rights in technology, and yet sees nothing wrong with taking money from the Algerian government, which really denies women the most basic human rights. This is called, Sean, hypocrisy." While Hillary Clinton hasn't directly addressed Fiorina's criticisms, her husband has. “You’ve got to decide, when you do this work, whether it will do more good than harm if someone helps you from another country,” former president Bill Clinton said in March. “And I believe we have done a lot more good than harm. And I believe this is a good thing.”

 
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  • (Score: 4, Insightful) by LoRdTAW on Monday April 06 2015, @05:23PM

    by LoRdTAW (3755) on Monday April 06 2015, @05:23PM (#167047) Journal

    Your ignorance is overwhelming. Tell me - WHICH CHURCH endorsed those actions?

    So, tell me. Which Mosques preach no-go zones, stoning christians and "Jihad"? You can't switch from bashing ALL Muslims as a whole based on the actions of a few to then trying to defend christians from christian extremism by trying to separate them based on a per church basis. You are desperately grasping at straws, and might I add: missing by a long shot, trying to make your point here.

    In the end, you are the ignoramus who is spouting nonsense.

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  • (Score: 0, Troll) by Runaway1956 on Monday April 06 2015, @06:16PM

    by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Monday April 06 2015, @06:16PM (#167066) Journal

    https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=imam%20preaches%20jihad [google.com]

    Number two hit in that search has in imam near Washington D.C. who answers to your description.
    Third hit has another imam who has connections to D.C. and New York.
    Fifth hit another imam in Chicago.
    Sixth hit cites the FBI as stating that 10% of imams in the US preach jihad.
    Next to the last hit on the page has another in Tennessee.

    I leave it to you to browse the following pages. Jihad and hatred of the United States, as well as hatred of infidels is widespread throughout the Muslim world.

    Perhaps you need to read this assessment - it's been published many times, but it seems liberals never get the message:

    https://heavenawaits.wordpress.com/muslim-behavior-with-population-increase/ [wordpress.com]

    http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2015/01/the_muslim_population_of_america_is_expanding_at_warp_speed.html [americanthinker.com]

    To summarize an oft-quoted section:

    When the Muslim population remains at or under 2%, their presence tends to fly low under the radar. In the 2% – 5% range, Muslims begin to seek converts, targeting those they see as disaffected, such as criminals. When the population reaches 5% they exert influence disproportionate to their numbers, becoming more aggressive and pushing for Sharia law. When the population hits the 10% mark Muslims become increasingly lawless and violent. Once the population reaches 20%, there is an increase in rioting, murder, jihad militias, and destruction of non-Muslim places of worship. At 40%, there are “widespread massacres, chronic terror attacks, and ongoing militia warfare.” Once beyond 50%, infidels and apostates are persecuted, genocide occurs, and Sharia law is implemented. After 80%, intimidation is a daily part of life along with violent jihad and some state-run genocide as the nation purges all infidels. Once the nation has rid itself of all non-Muslims, the presumption is that ‘Dar-es-Salaam’ has been attained – the Islamic House of Peace.

    --
    ‘Never trust a man whose uncle was eaten by cannibals’
    • (Score: 2) by LoRdTAW on Monday April 06 2015, @08:05PM

      by LoRdTAW (3755) on Monday April 06 2015, @08:05PM (#167143) Journal

      I'm not going to argue that Muslim clerics aren't preaching violence and hatred against gays and non Muslims. There are certainly those who are. When someone countered your arguments by mentioning Christian extremism you tried to dodge them by demanding the individual church containing said preachers be named.

      counter example:
      If we allowed the loony christian extremists to have their way, what would the USA look like? My bet is... no wait, *I guarantee you* we wouldn't look much different than any of the "modern" oppressive Muslim nations. We would be indistinguishable.

      Bottom line: All religion should perish. We have no need for silly beliefs. If you want to be spiritual, fine. Just keep it to yourself.

      • (Score: 1, Troll) by Runaway1956 on Monday April 06 2015, @08:21PM

        by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Monday April 06 2015, @08:21PM (#167152) Journal

        The proof that you are wrong, is the fact that Christianity ruled this country for years. We still have remnants of that rule - so-called "Blue Laws" for instance. Despite the "intolerance" of Christians, we have what we have today, do we not?

        When you speak of "extremist Christians" in the United States, you are just blathering.

        One of our more horrific episodes in Christian America was the Salem witch trials. What happened there? Did the federal government come in, and outlaw any future witch trials? Nope. The state got involved, but the state didn't even pass any laws regarding witch trials. What really happened was, the church leadership was rational enough to realize what happened - and they put a stop to witch trials.

        Do you see this happening in Islam today? No - you do not. Instead, you see Muslims clamoring for the right to impose Sharia law on their communities, their nations, their neighbors. The LOVE to put people to death in messy ways. Christianity was shamed by their excesses, while Islam begs for ever greater excesses.

        Wake up and smell the coffee.

        --
        ‘Never trust a man whose uncle was eaten by cannibals’
        • (Score: 2) by LoRdTAW on Monday April 06 2015, @09:28PM

          by LoRdTAW (3755) on Monday April 06 2015, @09:28PM (#167184) Journal

          The proof that you are wrong, is the fact that Christianity ruled this country for years.

          Yea. And? So what Christianity ruled this country. It is still a majority and still influences the daily lives of people and government. Why do you think we still have morons trying to re-enable religious freedoms by denying people service using their religious beliefs as an excuse? If you don't think that is extremism then you need help. I'll grant you that most of the stuff coming from present day Muslims is bat shit insane. But it does not reflect all Muslims. And it is not unique to them.

          We still have remnants of that rule - so-called "Blue Laws" for instance. Despite the "intolerance" of Christians, we have what we have today, do we not?

          Remnants yes but not too long ago Christianity was much more oppressive in this country. Women couldn't vote and lacked many rights which was supported by christianity: http://www.biblicalnonsense.com/chapter10.html [biblicalnonsense.com]
          Slavery was also defended by christianity [google.com]
          Need I go on? And lets just ignore the middle ages when people were tortured and horrifically executed for heresy, homosexuality and other things deemed unsavory by the church. As a modern nation we evolved to become better people.

          Islamic extremism is actually a more recent problem after the governments of the USA and others decided to become oil company whores. They started mucking around and wound up destroying progressive democratic governments (see Afghanistan) in order to ensure that oil companies had dibs on middle eastern oil reserves. Who put Saddam in power and armed the Taliban? The US government. My cheap whore of a government actually fucked up entire nations so some dynasty can waltz in and drill for oil. If they didn't destroy those nations and install friendly oppressive governments then those people would tell them to piss off and sell the oil themselves. Couldn't have that now could we? So we pissed all over them until we have the mess we have today. If the USA and others did not actively destroy the middle east for the past 60+ years then we would not have the problems we have today.

          One of our more horrific episodes in Christian America was the Salem witch trials. What happened there? Did the federal government come in, and outlaw any future witch trials? Nope.

          Correct! The Federal government didn't put a stop to it because it didn't exist for at least another 80 years.

          The state got involved, but the state didn't even pass any laws regarding witch trials.

          The state of Massachusetts did not exist either, it was a crown colony called Province of Massachusetts Bay.

          When you speak of "extremist Christians" in the United States, you are just blathering.

          So are you denying their existence, ignoring their presence or defending them?

          Do you see this happening in Islam today? No - you do not. Instead, you see Muslims clamoring for the right to impose Sharia law on their communities, their nations, their neighbors. The LOVE to put people to death in messy ways. Christianity was shamed by their excesses, while Islam begs for ever greater excesses.

          Are all muslims begging for it unanimously? Or more likely, a few nut jobs using their oppression combined with their common beliefs as a tool for manipulation? In my opinion, Europe screwed themselves by letting so many Muslim immigrants in, millions of them. All the while, where are they getting jobs, living and becoming educated? The overcrowding combined with discrimination has further pushed them down. What do they have left? What do they have in common to find solice? Answer: Religion. I guarantee you if the European Muslim population had jobs, money and went to school we would not see the current behaviour.
          And Christianity had plenty of gruesome, violent excess but it thankfully calmed down some a long, long time ago.

          Wake up and smell the coffee.

          Been awake and had a few cups already. Thank you very much.

        • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 06 2015, @10:31PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 06 2015, @10:31PM (#167215)

          The proof that you are wrong, is the fact that Christianity ruled this country for years.

          The US is not and never was a Christian theocracy. Christianity has never ruled the US.

          • (Score: 2) by LoRdTAW on Tuesday April 07 2015, @02:40PM

            by LoRdTAW (3755) on Tuesday April 07 2015, @02:40PM (#167461) Journal

            I'd like to somewhat disagree with you. While yes, we are not a christian theocracy, our government has enacted laws shaped by the christian religion.

            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 07 2015, @07:15PM

              by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 07 2015, @07:15PM (#167547)

              our government has enacted laws shaped by the christian religion.

              None of which are specific to or only exist in Christianity.