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posted by janrinok on Monday March 17 2014, @11:02AM   Printer-friendly
from the the-law-versus-commonsense dept.

c0lo writes:

"Following the ban on Tesla direct sale in New Jersey, Elon Musk wrote a message to the people of New Jersey on the Tesla Motor's blog, explaining why they don't want to go through dealers and what will happen next with the stores in New Jersey. To put a context around the issue: Tesla soared in consumer satisfaction, while Ford dropped and it's likely to continue dropping.

The post:

  1. explains why Tesla don't want to sell through dealers, claiming a conflict of interest between selling and servicing gasoline and electric cars.
  2. explains what will happen with their presence in New Jersey; the stores will be transformed into showrooms, with no info on price being offered, and servicing will not be impacted by the new regulation.
  3. tells people what they can do - buy online and receive the car delivered interstate or buy from across the river in Manhattan; They can also contact their representatives if they want back the right to buy directly from a store."
 
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  • (Score: 5, Insightful) by wonkey_monkey on Monday March 17 2014, @11:53AM

    by wonkey_monkey (279) on Monday March 17 2014, @11:53AM (#17520) Homepage

    Elon Musk to the People of New Jersey

    Headlines are usually supposed to give you some idea of what the story is about.

    This one looks more like someone accidentally a few words.

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  • (Score: 5, Funny) by Geezer on Monday March 17 2014, @12:26PM

    by Geezer (511) on Monday March 17 2014, @12:26PM (#17529)

    I see did there.

    • (Score: 2, Insightful) by carguy on Monday March 17 2014, @12:36PM

      by carguy (568) Subscriber Badge on Monday March 17 2014, @12:36PM (#17532)

      > I see did there.
      Ha! No mod points or I'd give you a funny.

      I for one respect our volunteer editors. My eyes took in:
          Elon Musk to the People of New Jersey
      and my brain interpreted:
          Elon Musk [writes|talks|blogs|tweets] to the People of New Jersey

      Doesn't your brain work this way too?

      • (Score: 2) by wonkey_monkey on Monday March 17 2014, @01:06PM

        by wonkey_monkey (279) on Monday March 17 2014, @01:06PM (#17547) Homepage

        Elon Musk [writes|talks|blogs|tweets] to the People of New Jersey

        That wasn't my problem. The headline doesn't give any indication what Musk is communicating about, which, unless you're already familiar with the story (which headline writers shouldn't assume) would seem to be more pertinent than who he's writing to.

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        • (Score: 2) by c0lo on Monday March 17 2014, @02:02PM

          by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Monday March 17 2014, @02:02PM (#17589) Journal

          The headline doesn't give any indication what Musk is communicating about

          (groan) Suggestion: read the TFA, than mock a story submission and try to fit in the headline an indication what the story is about. Come back here with some examples which would fit the max len.

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          • (Score: 1) by iNaya on Monday March 17 2014, @08:30PM

            by iNaya (176) on Monday March 17 2014, @08:30PM (#17783)

            What's the max length?

            Also, the headline doesn't give any indication about the subject matter. This is probably even more important than who the communication is aimed at, because really it applies to all the U.S. not just New Jersey.

            "Elon Musk explains reasoning of direct sales to New Jersey"
            "Elon Musk to NJ: the problem with dealers"
            "Dealers are your problem: Elon Musk to NJ"
            "Car dealers have a conflict of interest, writes Elon Musk to NJ"

            And I'm not a headline writer by any means. I'm sure that someone with a fair bit of practice could write something more informative and succinct.

            And he has a good point as well. What the anti-manufacturer-owned-stores people say about the "small" places shutting down doesn't ring true either. There are many independent, as well as manufacturer affiliated dealers where I currently live in New Zealand, and neither has any trouble surviving.

            And I wouldn't care if they shut down either. A lot of independent dealerships are known for lying, underhand practices, deception, and dishonest dealings.

            Of course - what's to stop manufacturers from doing this as well? It would probably be good to have a mixture of both. Regulate it so that while manufacturers CAN sell independently, the MUST still supply to independent dealers at wholesale rates.

  • (Score: 5, Interesting) by bucc5062 on Monday March 17 2014, @12:36PM

    by bucc5062 (699) on Monday March 17 2014, @12:36PM (#17531)

    I love the subtle humor in your jab, but let's take a moment OT to reflect on your title.

    SN was started, because a few, then many more felt that Dice was taking /. in a bad direction, culminating in the forced acquiescence of Beta (I spit on you...pst). People are not perfect so my time at /. was spent overlooking dumb headlines, poor summaries and such for I mainly enjoyed both what I learned from submitted articles and from the generally good comments.

    It seems less then charitable to take umbrage with SN, to compare it to /. for it is still but a child, growing and learning. had you commented on the topic first, not just the headline you'd help contribute to the topic on hand. From there a slight jab with maybe a alternate suggestion to give aid to the editors. As you are not one (I figure), don't comment on the splinter in their eye without acknowledging the log in your own. Overall, SN has been a refreshing change to the drivel that /. has become. As we are all entitled to your opinion, I respect yours, but it could be improved by being constructive, not destructive.

    So I'll blow Karma on my OT comment, but there is a slight trend the last few days to be more nitpick critical then constructively supportive.

    Besides, the headline does pull you in.

    "People of New Jersey...I am your new God, worship me"....An alternative to the real story :-)

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    • (Score: 3, Insightful) by nitehawk214 on Monday March 17 2014, @03:04PM

      by nitehawk214 (1304) on Monday March 17 2014, @03:04PM (#17629)

      Did you reply to the wrong post? GP did not mention anything about the old site, nor was his criticism non-constructive. (destructive?) He stated "Headlines are usually supposed to give you some idea of what the story is about." I agree.

      What is the issue with pointing out something you do not like?

      Besides, the headline does pull you in.

      Yeah, I take exception to that, big time. Sensationalist and inflammatory headlines pull people in as well, but I think I speak for every contributor to SN when I say that we do not want that bullshit here. Concise, informative and neutral headlines are the best.

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      • (Score: 2) by bucc5062 on Monday March 17 2014, @03:20PM

        by bucc5062 (699) on Monday March 17 2014, @03:20PM (#17643)

        No, I did not. The OP makes reference to /. right in the subject line as in ...as Slashdot's. His criticism, not not quite destructive, gave little other then a slightly humorous jab. That was my point. So he points out something he does not like, but gives little back. I point out something I didn't like, but tried to give more understanding. I found his jab witty, but I had hoped he'd talk about the subject a bit. I admitted I was going off topic.

        "Headlines are usually supposed to give you some idea of what the story is about." in so many words. "Musk talks to New Jersey?" "Eloy pitches Ideas" "Owner of Tesla suggests New Jer". You only have so many letters and the headline combined elements from the article. Maybe not the best, but not that bad. Sensational? How? Where? Inflammatory? Not even close. Other the Lummox's fau paux the other day I can't really say SN has been that bad compared to /., given that this place is new, editors are new, approach is new. Then, I don't try to figure out the whole submission from just a few words on the front page.

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  • (Score: 3, Informative) by c0lo on Monday March 17 2014, @01:45PM

    by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Monday March 17 2014, @01:45PM (#17577) Journal

    Elon Musk to the People of New Jersey

    Headlines are usually supposed to give you some idea of what the story is about.
    This one looks more like someone accidentally a few words.

    1. Open the TFA and read the blog post title (actually, don't sweat please: I'm quoting it here for your convenience
      To the People of New Jersey
      By Elon Musk, Chairman, Product Architect & CEO
    2. maybe, just maybe, the headlines are the same because the two systems suffer from the same limitation on the maximum allowed length of the headline?
      (granted, without trying to submit a story, one may never learn)
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    • (Score: 3, Insightful) by wonkey_monkey on Monday March 17 2014, @03:52PM

      by wonkey_monkey (279) on Monday March 17 2014, @03:52PM (#17666) Homepage

      | Open the TFA and read the blog post title

      Blog post titles do not - as in this case - automatically make good headlines for news sites.

      Here's a recent one: the Soylent headline was "Uptake of SDN Routing Hurting Conventional Sales" which was a marked and informative improvement over the linked article's "SDN Spawns Shift, Slowdown"

      Blindly copying and pasting from a linked article is Slashdot's MO.

      Headline length limits notwithstanding - the submission page appears to allow for 50 characters - it could still have been more informatively written:

      Elon Musk outlines Tesla's plans for New Jersey

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