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posted by LaminatorX on Tuesday March 18 2014, @09:58AM   Printer-friendly
from the same-thing-over-and-over-again-and-expexting-different-results dept.

GungnirSniper writes:

"CGI Group, the Montreal-based IT consulting company behind the botched rollout of the Federal Healthcare.gov site, has been removed from the Massachusetts Health Connector project. This comes about two months after being removed from Healthcare.gov, and a few weeks after CGI admitted the MA site 'may not be fully functioning by the end of June, and that one option under consideration is to scrap the multi-million-dollar site and start over.'

Like Oregon's similar troubles, Massachusetts uses paper submissions as a workaround to meet Federal sign-up requirements. 'The paper backlog fell to 21,000 pending applications, from 54,000 two weeks ago.'

If you are in the US, have you used Healthcare.gov or a State equivalent? If you are not in the US, do you use similar online systems in your nation?"

 
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  • (Score: 5, Insightful) by Vanderhoth on Tuesday March 18 2014, @10:44AM

    by Vanderhoth (61) on Tuesday March 18 2014, @10:44AM (#17998)

    Canadian here. We get health cards shortly after we're born. You go to a hospital/doctor show them your health card and get whatever care you require. Somethings aren't covered, but other than some medications nothing I can think of at the moment.

    You can still get regular insurance from Blue Cross, Manulife, etc... to cover what ails you. I have additional insurance through my employer, as is common for most skilled labor, and my wife works for Manulife so she also has additional coverage. We also have several life insurance policies through a couple different insurance companies.

    I have lived in the States, my mother is currently a nurse in South Carolina, so I'm following the health care debacle pretty closely. You guys are pretty screwed, but not for the reasons you might think. The ACA (a.k.a Obamacare) is a bad idea, but only because it doesn't go far enough to bring you guys on par with the rest of the developed world. On top of that you have the Tea Party who are trying as hard as they can, and succeeding, to make things worse than the need to be. They're like a spoiled child that can't have their way so they're going to flip the table with the birthday cake on it so no one can have any. That's just my an outside perspective though.

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  • (Score: 5, Insightful) by Angry Jesus on Tuesday March 18 2014, @02:00PM

    by Angry Jesus (182) on Tuesday March 18 2014, @02:00PM (#18085)

    I agree with you - the problem with the opposition is that, as messed up as obamacare is, the opposition has been in complete denial about the problem that obamacare is trying to fix. The denial is so deep, that Mitt Romney (aka mr romneycare which was the blueprint for obamacare and thus obviously knows better) was forced to say ridiculous things like emergency rooms were a viable form of healthcare for the poor. [washingtonpost.com] The opposition has provided nothing even close to an alternative solution to the problem. They could do a real public service if they stopped their ineffective focus on the welfare to citizens part of Obamacare and started working to whittle down the welfare to corporations part of Obamacare.

    On the other hand, for me, one of the biggest problems with centralized healthcare systems like in Canada and the UK is the risk to doctor patient confidentiality. Like Canada giving health records to US border control [www.cbc.ca] and the NHS planning on selling 'anonymized' data [wired.co.uk] and doing a data dump to Google systems. [theguardian.com] Given the corporate tentacles in obamacare, I think we'll see even worse in the USA soon enough.

    • (Score: 5, Informative) by Vanderhoth on Tuesday March 18 2014, @02:35PM

      by Vanderhoth (61) on Tuesday March 18 2014, @02:35PM (#18102)

      I don't disagree with anything you said.

      It doesn't make it right that that kind of data breach happened in Canada, but these things are already happening in the US [computerworld.com] without a centralized system like Canada and the UK. Also if you think the NSA is collecting metadata on US citizens, but is for some reason deciding it doesn't care about medial records. I'm sure the US has everything it already needs (and doesn't need) to know about you. It's also unclear if the records in the Canadian case were willfully provided to the US border guards, which still doesn't make it right, but we all know the NSA has been reaching out further than the US.

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  • (Score: 2, Informative) by Absinth on Tuesday March 18 2014, @03:54PM

    by Absinth (2711) on Tuesday March 18 2014, @03:54PM (#18135)

    Just a precision, when putting the emphasis on "Montreal..botched IT..." please keep in mind that CGI FEDERAL [washingtonpost.com] is a US based subsidiary [washingtonpost.com] of CGI GROUP.

    • (Score: 3, Funny) by Vanderhoth on Tuesday March 18 2014, @04:10PM

      by Vanderhoth (61) on Tuesday March 18 2014, @04:10PM (#18145)

      I'm glad you noted that. I've read in a number of places that CGI is a Canadian company, and as such Canada was taking quite a bit of flack for the issues in the exchange. I hate to point out that if someone has a problem with a Ford or GM product we don't blame America for building sub-par vehi... ah... never mind, blame Canada as the song goes.

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